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Alexandr (Alex) Wang

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

The way he got those designs, by the way, it was this guy, Leon Ding, I think.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

The way he stole the data out of Google's corporate cloud, by the way, was that he

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

It was so stupid.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

He just took all the code, he copy-pasted it into Apple Notes, into the Notes app, and then exported to a PDF and printed it and just walked out with it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

That's it?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

That's it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So this was later discovered, we found out this happened, but for months we had no idea that they'd stolen all this critical IP.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Stanford University, this just came out last week, Stanford University is entirely infiltrated by CCP operatives.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Few crazy facts, so first,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

By law in China, any Chinese citizen must comply with CCP intelligence gathering operations.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So if you're a Chinese citizen, you're living in the United States, and the intelligence agencies in China reach out to you, you have to comply with them.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And so you have to give them what you're seeing, what you're finding, et cetera.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And there's tons of Chinese nationals, Chinese citizens across all the major elite universities, across all the major tech companies, across all the major AI labs.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

They're everywhere.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

The second thing that's crazy is about a sixth of Chinese students, so Chinese citizens who are students in America, are on scholarships sponsored by the CCP itself.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And for those on these scholarships, they have to report back to a handler, basically, what are the things they find, what are the things they're learning.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

their scholarships get revoked.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So there's an incredibly large scale intelligence operation running against the US tech industry, which is just collecting all the information and secrets and technological secrets from our greatest research institutions, our universities, our AI labs, our tech companies at massive scale.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And honestly, I think this is a very underrated element of how China caught up so quickly.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So, you know, deep seek came out of nowhere.