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Alexandr (Alex) Wang

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Definitely not.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And they also have a fundamental advantage.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

You know, uh, one of the things that, that people say a lot now is like, oh, like what we need in the United States is an AI Manhattan project where we like, you know, we collect all the brilliant minds together.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

We collect our resources and we have one large, um, effort in, in the United States.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Well.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

It turns out like, it's actually really hard to pull that off in the United States, but China can pull it off super easily.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

China can just say, hey, all the best AI people, you now work in one company.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

We're gonna pool together all of your resources.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

We're gonna put you right next to

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

the largest nuclear power plant in the world.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

We're gonna build the largest data center in the world here.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

All the chips that China has are gonna go towards building this large scale AI project.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And they just have the ability to collect all of their resources together and throw it at winning on the AI race.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Whereas in the United States, we have all these companies.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And the United States government

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

As of yet, it's not going to force all these companies to combine and merge.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Today would be viewed as such an overreach of government power.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

But because of that, we're going to have five fragmented AI efforts, and maybe an aggregate will have way more chips, and an aggregate will have more power, and an aggregate will have more great researchers.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

But we're not going to be able to focus those efforts, whereas China is easily going to be able to focus all their efforts.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Yeah, so this is where stuff gets really weird for national security, which is you could clearly imagine scenarios where โ€“