Alexandr (Alex) Wang

But if you imagine these scenarios where countries, you know, nuclear deterrence doesn't work, they don't have the resources to get to use, to utilize, to have large scale AI data centers, you know, it can, you know, I'm worried that countries will, will

turn to biological weaponry, bioweapons, as their deterrence mechanism, which is highly destabilizing for the world.

Wow.

That's some scary shit.

The flip side is there is new technology that can...

that can also prevent this stuff.

So there's this research coming out of this lab in Seattle, David Baker's lab, this guy who just won a Nobel Prize on biological noses, or digital noses, sorry, which is basically you have these devices that can detect proteins or chemicals or pathogens in the air automatically.

And so I think the real offense-defense of bio and bioweaponry will end up looking like we're just going to have large-scale deployment of digital noses, effectively, that in every space, on every shipping container, on every plane, they're just constantly sensing for...

All existing known pathogens, any new pathogens that might exist and are constantly just like, you know, containing effect or like detecting and ultimately containing.

Interesting.

Yeah, exactly.

Correct.

Yeah, totally.

So there'll be, there'll be an offense defense, um, element to just as, just as in kind of, as we're walking through like AI applied to command and control, there's an offense defense element applied to cyber.

There's an offense defense element applied to bio.

and bioweaponry, there will be an offense-defense element.

So all of these, thankfully, there's like, you know, the hope is that we end up in a global, you know, the world agrees that basically we're not going to go down any of these paths, like, because there's mutual deterrence and we just, you know, it's not worth it for anybody in the world to destabilize, you know, and risk humanity like that.

That's basically where we need to land.

I think...

If it's going to happen, it's going to happen this decade, and it's probably going to happen this administration.