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Alexandr (Alex) Wang

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1582 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So yeah, right now we're definitely, US and China, we're definitely in an all-out race dynamic.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And we're gonna race, and I think this is correct, we're gonna race to build the best AI systems.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

They're gonna race to build the best AI systems.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And we're both all in on this approach, and we're both all in on racing towards building the most advanced AI capabilities, the largest data centers, the largest capacity, et cetera, et cetera.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

The...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And this is, if you recall, kind of how nuclear was.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

In nuclear war, as well as application of nuclear towards power production, it was kind of all systems go, like everyone racing towards building capacity, building capability.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And then...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Chernobyl and Three Mile Island happened, and it creates large-scale consternation around the technology and the risks of those technologies.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And there were a bunch of international treaties, and there's a large international response towards coordinating on nuclear technology.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

All said and done, if you look at nuclear, that set our country back, set many countries back, many generations in terms of power generation.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

But what it took was effectively these small-scale disasters to take place that effectively were the forcing function for international cooperation.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

You can imagine a scenario with AI where,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

because of all the things that we've been talking about, there's some scenario where maybe some terrorist group or some non-state actor or some, you know, North Korea or whomever, somebody decides to use it for, in a particularly adversarial or, you know, inhumane way and create, and that disaster has some,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

large-scale fallout.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So you take out power in one of the largest cities in the world and tons of people die.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Or there's some pathogen that gets released and tens of millions of people die.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Or one of these things happens that causes the international community and everyone in the world to realize

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

oh, shoot, we have to be coordinating on this.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And we should be collaborating for AI to improve our societies and improve our economies and improve the lives of our people.