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Alexandr (Alex) Wang

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Uh, but that would, I mean, that would also mean that the United States would just have to say, Hey, well, all we care about actually at this point is, is chip manufacturing and that we don't care actually about the Taiwanese people and the country and all that stuff.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Man, man.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Um, the TSMC.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So they're, um, I think they're technically not supposed to, but a lot of the, the, um, Huawei, one of the leading companies in China has been able to get, um,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

tons of chips from, tons of dies it's called, but basically tons of chips or chip prerequisites from Taiwan.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And they usually do it through like, they like start some cutout company that doesn't seem associated with them in like Singapore.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And then that Singaporean company buys a bunch of chips

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

or the Singaporean Malaysian companies buy a bunch of chips from TSMC and then they mail it back or something.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

But there's clearly been a lot of TSMC high-end outputs that have gone to the Chinese companies.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Scary shit, man.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

It gets... I mean, I think this is where...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

you have to believe like right now if you look at the you know just as we were right now like if you look at the situation and all of the um all the dynamics at play right now it's it's like it's a powder keg it's like very very very volatile um highly problematic in many ways and this is where i mean you just ultimately have to believe that

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

There's got to be some effort towards diplomatic solutions.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Because it is definitely true, like, war will be really bad for both sides.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Yeah, yeah.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Yeah, so... What does that look like?