Alexi Horowitz-Ghazi

But the book's printing in Malaysia.

Malaysia.

Malaysia.

I doubt it will change unless there is major news with tariffs.

Tariffs on paper, tariffs on printing.

So we're just functioning, we're operating with the information we have.

Yeah, I'm glad to talk to you because a few things have changed and I was...

So I was hoping to get a chance to talk with you about a few things that have changed, just in terms of where we're printing.

Yes.

Which is the European Union Deforestation Regulation.

Yes, and that could be a whole podcast, I think.

Yeah, it's evolving.

It applies to like seven or eight different commodities, coffee, cattle, cocoa, palm oil, soy, and wood.

And wood is obviously important here because... Paper's made out of wood.

And so what it means is that for books that you sell into the European Union, we have to provide geolocation and time of harvest metadata for when the paper was taken out of the forest.

All of the countries where we print books...

Our low risk, except Malaysia, was deemed medium risk.

They've printed some books for us on the children's list.

They've done a few cookbooks for us, four-color work, and they do pretty much everything that we need.

And they can get the papers that we need.