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Ali Eslami

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181 total appearances

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

I see my role as being one of a surfer where I have to be leaning just enough into the future to kind of make forward progress, but not too far that I fall into like the abyss.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

Right, yeah.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

So if you've used Google Search, you will have seen something called AI mode, where you can kind of have a conversation with AI about the thing you're searching for.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

That started off about two years ago, I think now, where we had Gemini, which was our LLM,

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

And you may not remember, but back then these AIs, they weren't really connected to the internet.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

So you could ask them questions, but you couldn't ask them about local restaurants or recent news.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

So yeah, we built this prototype that we called Neural Google, as in like, how can we make Google like a neural network?

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

And we connected Gemini to Google Search.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

And that has now, you know, been rolled out and many people have used it.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

Yeah, so I was involved in kind of creating that.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

Right, yeah, I forgot about that.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

That was a long, long time ago.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

Yeah, so I fell in love with computing when I was a teenager, like playing video games like so many other people, and learned how to code when I was in my teens, and went on to actually study AI during my undergrad, which was super uncommon back then.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

So in 2005, I did an undergrad in AI.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

And yeah, I applied to work at Google, and due to my nationality, I'm from Iran, I was told that there were some restrictions to Iranians working at Google.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

That didn't work out.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

So I went on, worked at a games company, then I did a PhD, worked at Microsoft, and in 2014-15 joined Google again.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

Thankfully, the rules had changed, or they didn't realize.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

I don't know what happened, but...

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

Yeah, I mean, that was one of the things that I found super attractive as a teenager.

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