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Ali Eslami

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181 total appearances

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

So imagine if I was a carpenter or an artist, without exaggeration, it would be like putting away all of your brushes and then moving to photography as a medium.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

That's happened three or four times.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

And I think that there is no indication that that's going to stop.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

I think as I fully expect my job to transform again in those ways, I suspect many other professions will feel this too with a bit of a time delay.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

So we're super aggressively using these AIs to redefine our own jobs in AI.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

And I suspect other professions will feel the same.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

Yeah.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

Well, one thing is when you're in a competitive environment and you're trying to be at the forefront, you end up working with very immature technologies.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

One key characteristic of my experience of these things is that I'm constantly working with broken tools.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

None of these things work as well as I would want, and it's partly my job to make them better.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

I think for everyone else, there's probably a luxury of being slightly further behind and therefore using more mature versions of these tools.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

And to a large extent, my role in this transformation is to help things progress fast and in the right direction.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

But for many people in this room, I think

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

These are ultimately just tools meant to serve a purpose, which often has social value or commercial value or human value.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

So I think there should definitely be less anxiety than, say, I have, because at the end of the day, it's just a tool that's going to serve whatever customer base or client base you already have.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

But yeah, the competition is pretty intense, and there is...

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

That intensity, I think, traditionally has always gotten a little bit simplified as it comes into the world, because there's a hundred things going on right now.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

Nobody knows which one's going to be the right way to go.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

But eventually, gradually, we will find out what the winning patterns are, and then they will kind of percolate through society in a much more manageable way, I imagine.

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Why Building AI At DeepMind Feels Like ‘Surfing’

Yeah, I caught the end of that previous conversation.