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Alice Han

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2679 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

And it's fundamental to the fact that Chinese economy remains structurally very imbalanced.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

You know, when you have a weak currency, it benefits the exporters, it benefits China's export-led growth model, but it does not benefit everyday households, everyday Chinese who are buying and choosing to use the CNY to purchase, say, foreign goods that are relatively then more expensive.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

So it's baffling, I think, to a lot of Western observers why, as China wants to rebalance its economy, it remains still wedded to a low CNY model, because at the end of the day, it seems to be a disservice to the rebalancing efforts to support the household, to support domestic demand.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

But my own take, and I want to get yours very quickly, James, is that

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

At the end of the day, as much as they talk about rebalancing, this whole economic model is still highly dependent on exports.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

It's still highly dependent on the manufacturing sector.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

And if anything, the five-year plan that we'll see unveiled fully in March seems to suggest that they want to double down on this manufacturing-led growth.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

So I think even although they want to talk about more recently in domestic China, a stronger CNY, it's hard for me to see them let go of this weaker CNY policy.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

But I looked at the data of China's currency devaluation since about 2021.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

We've seen it go down 18%, whereas the other currencies like the dollar and the euro have risen since the end of 2021.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

And more importantly than that, actually what we saw this year is

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

In spite of the fact that the currency has been relatively strong to the dollar, if you look at the trade weighted basket, and this is important, the CFETS and MEB index, that's China's currency relative to a basket of other trade related foreign currencies.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

It's been going down since the beginning of this year.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

It's been depreciating relative to the euro, to the GPY.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

to a lot of these other trading currencies.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

And this is excluding the US, where obviously we've seen this weak dollar story that's driven some degree of relative CNY strength this year.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

But James, enough of my rambling about this.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

What's your hot take on the CNY and why it matters?

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

Yeah, I'm somewhat skeptical that the voices that you mentioned will be the dominant ones in this debate.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

As you know, James, for the better part of a decade, we've heard a lot of talk about China needing a stronger currency to promote the internationalization.