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Alice Han

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

the export machine.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

And so I think we're seeing a China in 2025 that is heavily imbalanced and skewed towards supporting its exports rather than finding more productive areas to invest.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

One last data point that I thought was pretty interesting was the fact that private investment, which is again a good indicator for the domestic confidence of investors and businessmen, private investment fell 6.4%.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

And this is in lockstep with households who, in the latest PBOC data, have increased their propensity to save rather than to spend.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

And again, reinforces this point that as long as this economy remains really imbalanced, they're going to have to use either fixed asset investment and or exports rather than domestic consumption to drive growth.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

They could easily fix this if they decided, and this is Michael Pettis' point, which I agree with, that they weren't going to do growth targets every year in the March National People's Congress and the government work report.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

But the fact that they are wedded to these, say, 5% growth targets means that they need to invariably keep juicing the economy.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

And this brings me to the March NPC meeting, which should be held in the first week of March.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

My sources seem to tell me that it's going to be a 5% GDP target, so the same as last year, that the fiscal deficit will be at least 4%, if not higher.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

Now, that is a historic high for Chinese fiscal balances.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

And every indication points to the direction of the central government taking more debt on its balance sheet.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

which again by global standards is pretty low at around 20%.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

So they have the fiscal space to do so.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

But that means invariably I think that there will continue to be support for the export sector.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

But I also think that there will be more support through some of these local bond programs for fixed asset investment because I think if I were in Beijing's seat right now and I looked at the economic data in both Q4 but also 2025 as a whole, I'd be very worried about the huge fixed asset investment slump.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

and worried about the property investment slump, which we also have talked about.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

Property investment dropped 17.2%.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

Again, that's double digit negative territory, which has been in place, I think, over the last six years.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

This is something that they haven't really addressed because politically, I think they like the fact that they've succeeded in deflating the real estate asset bubble.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Did the U.S. Push Its Allies Closer to China?

But I remember writing a piece five years ago saying that this is not a financial risk, but it's a macro risk because as soon as the property sector, which is about a quarter of GDP historically, if not more, stays at depressed levels, that's going to have massive knock-on effects for household balance sheets, for spending, for consumer and business confidence.