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Alice Han

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The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

I think these all hinge around these tectonic plates of fertility, which is why this is actually quite an important issue.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

I'm in the camp of being very skeptical that this actually works.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

you know, putting a 13% tax on condoms.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

I think more importantly, you've seen this in the Scandinavian countries.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

Aside from immigration, you've got to have strong maternity leave policies.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

You've got to make it financially better for women to take some time off and have kids without being penalized for it.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

But some of the numbers, James, and maybe you can run us through this, of how much it costs to raise a child in China relative to the rest of the world are pretty shocking.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

So there was a think tank in Beijing, the Yuwa Population Research Institute, that calculated that the cost of raising a child until the age of 18 was over $76,000.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

And I think that that is about 13, 14 times per capita GDP.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

There are some other economists out there that say that could it be double that amount because that research doesn't take into account the indirect cost or the parenthood penalty of having kids, meaning the cost to, say, your salary.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

But I think regardless, it shows you the enormity of childcare as an economic burden to households.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

And households are having a rational approach to this, which is they're having less kids or they're not having kids at all.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

And again, James, I think you paint a great picture of the implications at a demographic level of this position.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

And if demography is destiny, I think China may be in a worse position than the U.S., certainly, which continues to benefit from immigration.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

But James, when you were there in China, was this something that you sensed or was it a concern that people voiced?

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

Very interesting.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

All right, James, it is prediction time.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

What's your prediction for the week?

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

Well, we didn't mention the China Economic Work Conference, which is an important December meeting.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why China’s Baby Bust Meets a Condom Tax

And that happened last week.