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Oftentimes when you do have a horrendous homicide and you're building a case to prosecute the person or the people who are responsible, the cause of death may not be necessary for public consumption, especially because we're talking about young, young children, young minors here. You don't necessarily need that for purposes of an indictment. But of course, at trial, everything comes out.
Oftentimes when you do have a horrendous homicide and you're building a case to prosecute the person or the people who are responsible, the cause of death may not be necessary for public consumption, especially because we're talking about young, young children, young minors here. You don't necessarily need that for purposes of an indictment. But of course, at trial, everything comes out.
Now, why this is particularly interesting that Pam Hobbs says that she does not know how the boys died until trial when everything does have to come out in evidence is because it contradicts the assertion that Jesse Miskelley and Damian Echols knew how the boys were killed based on local gossip and rumor. And Pam isn't the only one who said she didn't know how the boys died until trial.
Now, why this is particularly interesting that Pam Hobbs says that she does not know how the boys died until trial when everything does have to come out in evidence is because it contradicts the assertion that Jesse Miskelley and Damian Echols knew how the boys were killed based on local gossip and rumor. And Pam isn't the only one who said she didn't know how the boys died until trial.
Melissa Byers would also state that she learned the way the boys were killed during trial. So we have at least two of the mothers saying that these are their own sons and they didn't know how the boys died until trial. Now, why would Jesse and Damien want to say that they knew information about the cause of death based on rumor?
Melissa Byers would also state that she learned the way the boys were killed during trial. So we have at least two of the mothers saying that these are their own sons and they didn't know how the boys died until trial. Now, why would Jesse and Damien want to say that they knew information about the cause of death based on rumor?
because then they can pawn off things they have said that is not in public knowledge to the fact that it's part of the rumor mill. I heard it at the skate park, so on and so forth. It's not because I was actually there.
because then they can pawn off things they have said that is not in public knowledge to the fact that it's part of the rumor mill. I heard it at the skate park, so on and so forth. It's not because I was actually there.
I mean, I know those were a lot of medical terms and we will have experts in testimony really explain to you what it is, but essentially why this is not just animal predation for the things that you see. Stevie was beat horrendously in the head and he was hemorrhaging throughout his head.
I mean, I know those were a lot of medical terms and we will have experts in testimony really explain to you what it is, but essentially why this is not just animal predation for the things that you see. Stevie was beat horrendously in the head and he was hemorrhaging throughout his head.
that is i mean you hit someone with that much force in the head to completely incapacitate them and to kill right we've all seen at least movies when you go to hit someone going for the head is like going for the jugular for a reason because that's where your brain is And to hit so hard as to cause these fractures.
that is i mean you hit someone with that much force in the head to completely incapacitate them and to kill right we've all seen at least movies when you go to hit someone going for the head is like going for the jugular for a reason because that's where your brain is And to hit so hard as to cause these fractures.
And then, of course, the hemorrhaging is devastating to have that amount of force be applied probably pretty early on because of the hemorrhaging.
And then, of course, the hemorrhaging is devastating to have that amount of force be applied probably pretty early on because of the hemorrhaging.
And one other thing in, you know, if you follow some of the defense cited commentary that this was something that got out of hand or whatnot, I will say it takes a lot of force to fracture a skull. And for it again to have happened relatively, at least we know that he was injured. alive because of all the hemorrhaging and the bleeding that was happening. His heart was still pumping.
And one other thing in, you know, if you follow some of the defense cited commentary that this was something that got out of hand or whatnot, I will say it takes a lot of force to fracture a skull. And for it again to have happened relatively, at least we know that he was injured. alive because of all the hemorrhaging and the bleeding that was happening. His heart was still pumping.
This was not near the end, right? Because of that, I think that also says something about the attack. If you start out with a blow that can fracture the skull, it's something very different than, oops, I tripped you off your bike. Now I have to cover it up because you've broken your leg or something like that.
This was not near the end, right? Because of that, I think that also says something about the attack. If you start out with a blow that can fracture the skull, it's something very different than, oops, I tripped you off your bike. Now I have to cover it up because you've broken your leg or something like that.
So something to think about in terms of how severe these wounds are and when they would have been inflicted in terms of the timeline of what happens to these boys.
So something to think about in terms of how severe these wounds are and when they would have been inflicted in terms of the timeline of what happens to these boys.