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And many of you have probably heard all about it from people who claim to be experts inside knowledge, FBI agents, former FBI agents.

But yet there seems to be something amiss.

And maybe that's why you're listening today.

Julia, have you followed this case at all?

So those of you who have ever heard Julia talk know that she's incredibly humble about her experience.

And I think this is worth noting because before we went live to start recording, you know, we were talking with Julia about the fact that you probably are hearing a lot of people who have been FBI agents talk on the news and they seem to have wildly speculative things to say that don't seem to be rooted in the way that you've probably heard Julia talk if you've heard her on the console.

And I think this is worth noting, not to necessarily discredit anyone who claims to be an FBI agent, but knowing what their experience and how long their experience is relevant.

You were telling us, Julia, how it took you not just one year, not just two years to kind of feel comfortable in your shoes because these types of cases, they're coming to the FBI precisely because they are some of the biggest cases that face crime.

a nation.

So can you just talk a little bit about what your path was like when you began to feel like you really had your skis under you as an investigator?

The key thing that you said there was when we're invited.

And that's because as we've talked about on the show often is that most of the crimes you guys think about in true crime, home invasion, abduction, kidnapping, homicide, most violent crimes fall to state and local jurisdictions.

And so the FBI isn't actually the one who would be the first in line to get these.

Now, when you say this type of case, it's very likely that the FBI would be invited.

Can you talk through what specifically?

Because here we are talking about

A very strange type of crime.

It is actually strange for people to be abducted directly from their home and taken away and then not be able to be found for some time.

Abductions happen.

Home invasions happen.