Alie Ward

Aveline Malik makes our professional transcripts.

Scheduling producer Noelle Dilwer scheduled this a few times.

Thank you, Noelle.

Susan Hale is the irreplaceable managing director.

Our mechanical breath of fresh air is Jake Chafee.

And bleeding, beating heart, Mercedes Maitland is our lead editor.

Nick Thorburn wrote the theme music.

And if you stick around until the end of the episode, I burden you with a secret from my life.

And this week, it's that when I wrote an article for the LA Times in 2010 covering packing for Mars, and I got a chance to interview Mary then.

I had a devil of a time turning the copy in.

I was just in knots.

I was terrified that someone I respected so much would read it and it would be trash.

And after it was published, she wrote me a really nice note afterward.

And I printed up that note and I kept it on my desk for my more anxious days.

If you even remotely tolerate me and you're not already in love with Mary Roach, you will be after one paragraph in one of her books.

So enjoy.

Oh hey, it's yesterday's pants, also known as today's pants.

Allie Ward, let's ruin a manicure in the best way possible.

It's Ology's eighth year this week, eighth anniversary rather.

This is episode 467.