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Alina

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Obviously, it could mean that she was bound when she was alive and was being restrained, which I fully believe can be the case and probably was the case. But this could also be one of those things where you say, okay, is that where she was hung upside down to be drained of blood? That would leave ligature marks too. That would leave ligature marks somewhere. Yeah.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

I mean, her neck was also, had ligature marks as well.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

I mean, her neck was also, had ligature marks as well.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Which to me says it was part of like a torture or restraining. Yeah. But it also can have to do with being hung upside down if that's the case, if that's how it went. Yeah. If you think too hard about all these things all at once and you start thinking about what was happening during all this, it can like fuck you up. Like it's just like thinking about what she went through. Yeah.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Which to me says it was part of like a torture or restraining. Yeah. But it also can have to do with being hung upside down if that's the case, if that's how it went. Yeah. If you think too hard about all these things all at once and you start thinking about what was happening during all this, it can like fuck you up. Like it's just like thinking about what she went through. Yeah.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

And nobody knows how long she was going through this.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

And nobody knows how long she was going through this.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Yeah. It's like, it feels like it was at least hours and hours for sure.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Yeah. It's like, it feels like it was at least hours and hours for sure.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

So police ended up fanning out, started combing the lot for any evidence they could get, but there was really little to be found. What they did collect, some of it was like a paper cement bag with what they thought was small drops of diluted blood on it. Investigators theorized that these cement bags were what were used to carry both sections of her body to this area.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

So police ended up fanning out, started combing the lot for any evidence they could get, but there was really little to be found. What they did collect, some of it was like a paper cement bag with what they thought was small drops of diluted blood on it. Investigators theorized that these cement bags were what were used to carry both sections of her body to this area.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

There was also tire tracks visible on the sidewalk and a slightly bloody heel print of a man's shoe. This is good evidence. Yeah. But according to former detective Steve Hodel, which becomes a very important member of this case. And we just talked about him in the Rodney Alcala case. We did.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

There was also tire tracks visible on the sidewalk and a slightly bloody heel print of a man's shoe. This is good evidence. Yeah. But according to former detective Steve Hodel, which becomes a very important member of this case. And we just talked about him in the Rodney Alcala case. We did.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

According to him, quote, these two important pieces of evidence were not secured or photographed by the on-scene detectives.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

According to him, quote, these two important pieces of evidence were not secured or photographed by the on-scene detectives.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Why would you not photograph that? And they were not photographed or secured. No. Like, bizarre. Those are important pieces of evidence. Mm-hmm.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Why would you not photograph that? And they were not photographed or secured. No. Like, bizarre. Those are important pieces of evidence. Mm-hmm.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Yeah. Like, you can genuinely narrow down a suspect with that shit. You can tell what kind of tire that is, what kind of car it comes from. You could tell what that shoe is, what kind of shoe that is, how many have been sold in the area. You can tell all that shit. Yeah, lots. But we're just, eh. Like, LAPD. Come on. What are you doing?

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Yeah. Like, you can genuinely narrow down a suspect with that shit. You can tell what kind of tire that is, what kind of car it comes from. You could tell what that shoe is, what kind of shoe that is, how many have been sold in the area. You can tell all that shit. Yeah, lots. But we're just, eh. Like, LAPD. Come on. What are you doing?

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

But other than that, there was really nothing else of note at the scene and no means of identifying this body. So she ended up being labeled at first Jane Doe number one and transported to the coroner's office. The next morning, an autopsy was conducted by Dr. Frederick Newbar, who was the chief autopsy surgeon for the county of Los Angeles.