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Alina

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Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Yeah. It's like, it feels like it was at least hours and hours for sure.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Yeah. It's like, it feels like it was at least hours and hours for sure.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

So police ended up fanning out, started combing the lot for any evidence they could get, but there was really little to be found. What they did collect, some of it was like a paper cement bag with what they thought was small drops of diluted blood on it. Investigators theorized that these cement bags were what were used to carry both sections of her body to this area.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

So police ended up fanning out, started combing the lot for any evidence they could get, but there was really little to be found. What they did collect, some of it was like a paper cement bag with what they thought was small drops of diluted blood on it. Investigators theorized that these cement bags were what were used to carry both sections of her body to this area.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

There was also tire tracks visible on the sidewalk and a slightly bloody heel print of a man's shoe. This is good evidence. Yeah. But according to former detective Steve Hodel, which becomes a very important member of this case. And we just talked about him in the Rodney Alcala case. We did.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

There was also tire tracks visible on the sidewalk and a slightly bloody heel print of a man's shoe. This is good evidence. Yeah. But according to former detective Steve Hodel, which becomes a very important member of this case. And we just talked about him in the Rodney Alcala case. We did.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

According to him, quote, these two important pieces of evidence were not secured or photographed by the on-scene detectives.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

According to him, quote, these two important pieces of evidence were not secured or photographed by the on-scene detectives.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Why would you not photograph that? And they were not photographed or secured. No. Like, bizarre. Those are important pieces of evidence. Mm-hmm.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Why would you not photograph that? And they were not photographed or secured. No. Like, bizarre. Those are important pieces of evidence. Mm-hmm.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Yeah. Like, you can genuinely narrow down a suspect with that shit. You can tell what kind of tire that is, what kind of car it comes from. You could tell what that shoe is, what kind of shoe that is, how many have been sold in the area. You can tell all that shit. Yeah, lots. But we're just, eh. Like, LAPD. Come on. What are you doing?

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Yeah. Like, you can genuinely narrow down a suspect with that shit. You can tell what kind of tire that is, what kind of car it comes from. You could tell what that shoe is, what kind of shoe that is, how many have been sold in the area. You can tell all that shit. Yeah, lots. But we're just, eh. Like, LAPD. Come on. What are you doing?

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

But other than that, there was really nothing else of note at the scene and no means of identifying this body. So she ended up being labeled at first Jane Doe number one and transported to the coroner's office. The next morning, an autopsy was conducted by Dr. Frederick Newbar, who was the chief autopsy surgeon for the county of Los Angeles.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

But other than that, there was really nothing else of note at the scene and no means of identifying this body. So she ended up being labeled at first Jane Doe number one and transported to the coroner's office. The next morning, an autopsy was conducted by Dr. Frederick Newbar, who was the chief autopsy surgeon for the county of Los Angeles.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Newbar listed the cause of death as, quote, hemorrhage and shock from a concussion of the brain and lacerations of her face. My God. They believed that that was all inflicted while she was conscious, which means that Glasgow Smile was inflicted while she was conscious and alive. And those were deep cuts.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Newbar listed the cause of death as, quote, hemorrhage and shock from a concussion of the brain and lacerations of her face. My God. They believed that that was all inflicted while she was conscious, which means that Glasgow Smile was inflicted while she was conscious and alive. And those were deep cuts.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Oh, it tore open her whole face. When you're looking from the side, it's like her jaw has been removed almost. That's horrific. And it's hemorrhage and shock from that, which is one of the most horrific things I can imagine. She died in shock from bleeding out. From having her face ripped open. Yeah.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Oh, it tore open her whole face. When you're looking from the side, it's like her jaw has been removed almost. That's horrific. And it's hemorrhage and shock from that, which is one of the most horrific things I can imagine. She died in shock from bleeding out. From having her face ripped open. Yeah.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

There was an additional incision from just below the navel to just above the pubic area and several smaller cuts and small bruises all over the body that were likely defensive wounds. So she was fighting back for part of this. I'm sure. There was also evidence suggesting that Elizabeth had been sexually assaulted. But samples taken during the autopsy came back negative for the presence of sperm.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

There was an additional incision from just below the navel to just above the pubic area and several smaller cuts and small bruises all over the body that were likely defensive wounds. So she was fighting back for part of this. I'm sure. There was also evidence suggesting that Elizabeth had been sexually assaulted. But samples taken during the autopsy came back negative for the presence of sperm.