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Alina

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Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Got it. Newbar estimated the time of death to be somewhere within a 24-hour window before the body was discovered, but he couldn't be more precise than that because, I mean, his body's drained of blood and has been mutilated in a way I can't even fathom. And of particular note, though, at least from Newbar's perspective, was how precise the bisection was, like we were talking about.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Got it. Newbar estimated the time of death to be somewhere within a 24-hour window before the body was discovered, but he couldn't be more precise than that because, I mean, his body's drained of blood and has been mutilated in a way I can't even fathom. And of particular note, though, at least from Newbar's perspective, was how precise the bisection was, like we were talking about.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

In fact, it looked like it was actually what's called a hemocorporectomy, which is at this time in the 40s. a relatively new surgical procedure that came into use after World War II, and it involved removing everything below the waist from a surviving person.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

In fact, it looked like it was actually what's called a hemocorporectomy, which is at this time in the 40s. a relatively new surgical procedure that came into use after World War II, and it involved removing everything below the waist from a surviving person.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

As far as Newbar could tell, the procedure had been done after death on this victim, who we now know as Elizabeth Short, and the precision with which it had been done really suggested that the killer, or at least the person who performed the bisection post-mortem... Because it could be two different people. ...had some experience with medicine and surgery.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

As far as Newbar could tell, the procedure had been done after death on this victim, who we now know as Elizabeth Short, and the precision with which it had been done really suggested that the killer, or at least the person who performed the bisection post-mortem... Because it could be two different people. ...had some experience with medicine and surgery.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Newbar also noted that the body appeared to have been thoroughly washed before it had been left in the lot.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Newbar also noted that the body appeared to have been thoroughly washed before it had been left in the lot.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Because everything is clean, you have a clean field, you... He's not going to go through all of that to drain blood and to bisect in such a clean way and then leave it messy. Yeah. It's just not something that I see happening. This hemocorporectomy that he's talking about would be performed like it's like a radical surgery. Like it is like last resort, like all you have left kind of thing.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Because everything is clean, you have a clean field, you... He's not going to go through all of that to drain blood and to bisect in such a clean way and then leave it messy. Yeah. It's just not something that I see happening. This hemocorporectomy that he's talking about would be performed like it's like a radical surgery. Like it is like last resort, like all you have left kind of thing.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

And what you have to do is you have to cut between two specific lumbar vertebrae that makes it so that you don't have to cut bone. Okay. And they have to like reroute the spinal cord essentially. And they have to reroute because you're removing the genitalia, you're removing any of, you know, the rectum, all that stuff. So you're going to have to reroute everything.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

And what you have to do is you have to cut between two specific lumbar vertebrae that makes it so that you don't have to cut bone. Okay. And they have to like reroute the spinal cord essentially. And they have to reroute because you're removing the genitalia, you're removing any of, you know, the rectum, all that stuff. So you're going to have to reroute everything.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Many different things for a living person. Right. It's a very intense procedure, a very complicated procedure. And again, this person cut in the same spot that you cut for this specific procedure. So that they didn't have to cut through a bone. Which is strange. And you, I'm telling you, you open up a body and you take a look at that spinal cord.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Many different things for a living person. Right. It's a very intense procedure, a very complicated procedure. And again, this person cut in the same spot that you cut for this specific procedure. So that they didn't have to cut through a bone. Which is strange. And you, I'm telling you, you open up a body and you take a look at that spinal cord.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

It is not as simplistic as you think it's going to be to just chop through between a vertebrae. You know what I mean? So it's got to be someone who knows what they're doing and has seen this before. They didn't just open her up for the first time and just figure it all out. Right. It's just not something they've opened people up before and they've seen what's going on.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

It is not as simplistic as you think it's going to be to just chop through between a vertebrae. You know what I mean? So it's got to be someone who knows what they're doing and has seen this before. They didn't just open her up for the first time and just figure it all out. Right. It's just not something they've opened people up before and they've seen what's going on.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

I will die.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

I will die.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Knowing the cause and estimated time of death was pretty important, but for investigators, they really wanted to know who this victim was. They were like, this is the most important.

Morbid
Episode 647: A Deeper Dive into the Murder of Elizabeth Short (Part 1)

Knowing the cause and estimated time of death was pretty important, but for investigators, they really wanted to know who this victim was. They were like, this is the most important.