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Alison Pugh

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
303 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

I've heard people say, wow, I feel like I'm being seen right now.

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

And I think the kind of emotional human-like syntax that

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

and the not entirely predictable responses help people feel seen.

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

There's a couple of problems with it.

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

The first is that it's not an interaction.

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

Because it's not a human being on the other end, there's actually no risk

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

of judgment and on one level, that's a great thing for all the people who are afraid of the shame and judgment of others and who are walking around with dark secrets.

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

Many people can walk around with shame and the idea of having therapy that doesn't involve a human gaze

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

can be very appealing.

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

But because there's no risk of human judgment, people also are less attached to it.

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

This is also something that research has found that people like kind of are less motivated because they know it's not a human being.

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

So it's a kind of thing that engineers actually struggle with.

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

The more human they make it, the more judgment

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

It involves the less appealing it is to those who want to avoid judgment, the less human they make it, the more appealing it is to those who have shame, but also then the quicker the drop off because people don't consider the reflection of the other that hard won or that worth much.

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

You know what I'm saying?

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

Well, I do think that there's probably some minor uses that are important.

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

I think the same level like those who could get help from opening a book, I think can get help from seeking out some kind of technological assistance.

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

But I do think that there's something profound that happens between people and we risk losing that.

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

And it's so valuable, not just for the consumer or the learner or the patient.

Hidden Brain
Escaping Perfectionism

but actually for society, for many people to be seen every day by different kinds of people produces a kind of belonging that has community effects.