Alistair Campbell

And, of course, going back to the discussion on the main point about – in the main episode about corruption –

all that too.

So I think it's probably him.

I think that he takes the gold medal from Vlad.

Those two guys have done, and I've got to be honest, reading their books, which I did a while back, and listening to the corruption part of this book, it does make me feel slightly sick that

That when we were in government, we didn't do more to stop this whole Russian laundromat situation in London.

Because there's no doubt that we were, I think there's a line in London falling.

We didn't just sort of open the door, we kind of rolled out the red carpet to them.

So yeah, both brilliant books.

And I think we should maybe, maybe listeners tell us who your most evil handshake ever is.

And you can't say, nobody's allowed to say they're in-laws.

I was actually trying to write down a list and it became a very long list in the end.

Yeah.

I did shake his hand.

There's also the thug who stole my Burnley hat when I was eight on main road in Manchester city.

An adult.

Yeah, and I hope, you know, baby serves you right that Arsenal won the Premier League and you didn't, eh?

I've got a long memory, Rory.

Anyway, lovely to talk to you as ever.

Lovely to talk to you.