Alistair Campbell

Yeah.

and had honest conversations about what was going on, I think he might have reached the conclusion that said, because in the end, yes, he's the mayor of Manchester, but he is also a Labour politician.

And he's a Labour politician who was, with mistakes on both sides, has created a total mess.

He's actually made Labour's defeat more likely.

in a by-election where he knows that at the end of that, Keir Starmer gets more of the blame.

I don't know whether we should get Ben Wallace or David Gork to play.

I don't know who we'd do on the podcast.

No.

So he did the one to Trump basically saying, you know, I've served five tours in Afghanistan.

Kindly, please don't insult our comrades who died serving in Afghanistan.

The next day, he did a video where he basically said, I've just been for a two hour run with a 15 kilogram machine.

backpack.

He's a bit like you.

And he looked, just wasn't even out of breath.

I will never forget their courage, their bravery.

and the sacrifice that they made for their country.

And so I consider President Trump's remarks to be insulting and frankly appalling.

Where I'm going to side with you a bit, I'm going to give you a quote from Abraham Lincoln, who, as you know, is one of my sort of political heroes.

There's three degrees.

God, yeah.