Allie Beth Stuckey

It, those other things may get thrown in and that may be great, but I promise if you pursue money and you pursue power for the sake of those things, you will not also get the stable family thrown in. So it's just a matter of what you want to prioritize and pursue and let God take care of the material stuff.

Well, thank you so much. Thanks. It's an honor to be here.

Well, thank you so much. Thanks. It's an honor to be here.

Oh yeah, I think that's a really good way to frame it. I've often said that socialism is someone's way to try to be a good person without ever having to get off the couch because you're kind of just outsourcing your compassion to the state. And so you can just point to something that you have not done in order to show your virtue.

Oh yeah, I think that's a really good way to frame it. I've often said that socialism is someone's way to try to be a good person without ever having to get off the couch because you're kind of just outsourcing your compassion to the state. And so you can just point to something that you have not done in order to show your virtue.

And empathy is kind of similar in that it doesn't require any action. It doesn't require any sacrifice. All you have to do is say, I'm empathetic. And people conclude that you're therefore a good person. But you haven't actually had to do anything for someone to prove your virtue or to prove your selflessness. So in that way, it is kind of a virtue signal, but it's more than that.

And empathy is kind of similar in that it doesn't require any action. It doesn't require any sacrifice. All you have to do is say, I'm empathetic. And people conclude that you're therefore a good person. But you haven't actually had to do anything for someone to prove your virtue or to prove your selflessness. So in that way, it is kind of a virtue signal, but it's more than that.

Because if that's all it was, then okay, that's not a good trend. It's superficial. Maybe it's stopping people from actually getting up and sacrificing something for someone else. But I actually think that it's harmful because, as you said, it gives people cover not to just not be a great person, but to actually be a bad person and to justify supporting harmful policies and policies.

Because if that's all it was, then okay, that's not a good trend. It's superficial. Maybe it's stopping people from actually getting up and sacrificing something for someone else. But I actually think that it's harmful because, as you said, it gives people cover not to just not be a great person, but to actually be a bad person and to justify supporting harmful policies and policies.

We go through some specific instances of that in my book. Each chapter is dedicated to an issue or a policy that I actually think is pushed forward by what I call toxic empathy, but is actually very harmful, not only to the people that it's purporting to help, but the people on the other side of the moral equation.

We go through some specific instances of that in my book. Each chapter is dedicated to an issue or a policy that I actually think is pushed forward by what I call toxic empathy, but is actually very harmful, not only to the people that it's purporting to help, but the people on the other side of the moral equation.

Yes. Well, before I try to parse out the difference between empathy and toxic empathy, I also like to talk about the difference between empathy and love or empathy and compassion or even empathy and sympathy. So if not to get into the weeds of the etymology of the word empathy. But sympathy, you can feel for someone. But empathy actually means to be in someone's feelings.

Yes. Well, before I try to parse out the difference between empathy and toxic empathy, I also like to talk about the difference between empathy and love or empathy and compassion or even empathy and sympathy. So if not to get into the weeds of the etymology of the word empathy. But sympathy, you can feel for someone. But empathy actually means to be in someone's feelings.

So to feel how someone feels, which I actually think and argue in my book, as you just said, that can be very powerful to mourn with someone who is mourning, to rejoice with someone who is rejoicing, to say to someone, you know, maybe I haven't been there, but I'm going to put myself in your shoes to try to see what you see happening.

So to feel how someone feels, which I actually think and argue in my book, as you just said, that can be very powerful to mourn with someone who is mourning, to rejoice with someone who is rejoicing, to say to someone, you know, maybe I haven't been there, but I'm going to put myself in your shoes to try to see what you see happening.

actually tell a pretty lighthearted story at the beginning of this book. I'm a mom of three and one day I was traveling by myself and I saw this mom struggling to get her luggage and her stroller and her toddler all to her seat. And I could see that she was on the brink of tears. And so because I'm a mom that has been there, I have been in her shoes. I have struggled in that way.

actually tell a pretty lighthearted story at the beginning of this book. I'm a mom of three and one day I was traveling by myself and I saw this mom struggling to get her luggage and her stroller and her toddler all to her seat. And I could see that she was on the brink of tears. And so because I'm a mom that has been there, I have been in her shoes. I have struggled in that way.

I not only noticed her, but But I knew exactly what she needed because I had been in that situation and I knew what I needed. And so I was able to very easily help her and to alleviate a burden because I had felt how she felt that propelled me to really love and serve her in a way that I would want. to be loved and served. And so empathy can motivate us to doing something that is actually good.

I not only noticed her, but But I knew exactly what she needed because I had been in that situation and I knew what I needed. And so I was able to very easily help her and to alleviate a burden because I had felt how she felt that propelled me to really love and serve her in a way that I would want. to be loved and served. And so empathy can motivate us to doing something that is actually good.

But I do argue that empathy in itself is not necessarily good. Empathy in itself is neither good nor bad. Empathy in itself is just neutral. Because if I feel how someone feels, say a man who identifies as the opposite sex, I can say, wow, it would be really hard to think that you're stuck in the wrong body if that's how someone feels.