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Amanda Aronchik

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Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

Chloe started to study this back in 2017. And her team's basic question was, did all those deportations ultimately help U.S. workers?

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

OK, that seems very dramatic.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

OK, that seems very dramatic.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

OK, that seems very dramatic.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

Well, Chloe says there are two main reasons. Reason number one, simply when a bunch of people are removed from an economy when they've been deported, this has an economic impact.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

Well, Chloe says there are two main reasons. Reason number one, simply when a bunch of people are removed from an economy when they've been deported, this has an economic impact.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

Well, Chloe says there are two main reasons. Reason number one, simply when a bunch of people are removed from an economy when they've been deported, this has an economic impact.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

But reason number two, most U.S.-born workers and unauthorized workers do not seem to act as substitutes in the real world. When you deport someone who doesn't have legal status in the U.S., that does not mean a U.S. citizen is going to take that job.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

But reason number two, most U.S.-born workers and unauthorized workers do not seem to act as substitutes in the real world. When you deport someone who doesn't have legal status in the U.S., that does not mean a U.S. citizen is going to take that job.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

But reason number two, most U.S.-born workers and unauthorized workers do not seem to act as substitutes in the real world. When you deport someone who doesn't have legal status in the U.S., that does not mean a U.S. citizen is going to take that job.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

The way Chloe puts it in her paper, their findings from the Secure Communities program suggest that many immigrant workers are complements to citizen workers instead of substitutes.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

The way Chloe puts it in her paper, their findings from the Secure Communities program suggest that many immigrant workers are complements to citizen workers instead of substitutes.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

The way Chloe puts it in her paper, their findings from the Secure Communities program suggest that many immigrant workers are complements to citizen workers instead of substitutes.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

OK, so let's say you run this. We're running this restaurant and the unauthorized workers are not there anymore because they have been deported. Like, why won't I just offer more money to just pay citizens to work and bus the tables? Like, I could just make it a better job.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

OK, so let's say you run this. We're running this restaurant and the unauthorized workers are not there anymore because they have been deported. Like, why won't I just offer more money to just pay citizens to work and bus the tables? Like, I could just make it a better job.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

OK, so let's say you run this. We're running this restaurant and the unauthorized workers are not there anymore because they have been deported. Like, why won't I just offer more money to just pay citizens to work and bus the tables? Like, I could just make it a better job.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

Chloe is not the first person to use a big deportation to try and study this stuff. There is a paper looking at the late 1920s and early 1930s where hundreds of thousands of people from Mexico were repatriated out of the United States.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

Chloe is not the first person to use a big deportation to try and study this stuff. There is a paper looking at the late 1920s and early 1930s where hundreds of thousands of people from Mexico were repatriated out of the United States.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

Chloe is not the first person to use a big deportation to try and study this stuff. There is a paper looking at the late 1920s and early 1930s where hundreds of thousands of people from Mexico were repatriated out of the United States.

Planet Money
The "chilling effect" of deportations

And there was another paper that looked at a time in the 1960s when a change in immigration law resulted in half a million seasonal workers disappearing from the U.S. labor market. Both of those studies came to basically the same conclusion as Chloe's, No positive impacts for U.S. workers.