Amanda Luxon

And it's interesting.

Lots of people say, oh, that'd be good.

I'd like to do that.

But when it actually comes down to the crunch, yeah.

There are very few people that want to do it, but also very few people that can do it.

Everybody thinks they can be a leader, but leadership is actually a very difficult thing and requires quite a lot of

skills and things like that.

So, yeah, so he has always, I mean, New Zealand is our passion.

Um, we love New Zealand.

We think New Zealand is amazing and he really is, um, an incredible gem to, for what he can bring to the table and has been incredibly successful in other, um, other lives before this.

So, um, yeah, it's, it's good.

Well, I could give you a really glib answer to that or I could give you a real answer.

And it's a really interesting question, Dom.

And in fact, one of the things that amazes me is that the most common comment I would get from people – and I spend a lot of time out in the community with people and –

Most New Zealanders wouldn't know the role that I actually play, but I spend a lot of time engaging, particularly in overseas and as much as I can here.

And I love doing that.

But people will say to me, oh, my gosh, I listened to, you know, Christopher speak last week or I was introduced to him.

And they'll go, I'm blown away.

And they'll go, why didn't I know this?

And this is not a political response.