Amanda Scott

I strongly suspect we'll find that whales and cetaceans and very possibly everything else is actually self-conscious, but we know that we are.

And we could bring the whole of human creativity to bear in service to the web, in which case we might not be the most important nodes in the web, but we might become really quite important nodes in the web.

And that would be utterly flipping amazing if we could do that.

That would be a next step in human evolution, and heaven knows where it would go after that.

But it would be pretty sodding impressive.

Also, I don't see how we get through if we don't do that.

So I think it's actually essential.

And the vision of the world that could be, if we were to take the scaffolding on which biomimicry is built, which is the world is full of astonishment and wonder, and we as humans could reproduce that astonishment and wonder in multiple different ways, but we need to do it not...

led by our own brains.

This is what terrifies me about the CRISPR chapter in your book, which is it seems to be being led by people who think like Silicon Valley, which is terrifying.

But if we were to be able to connect to the web of life and go, okay, we can do this stuff, what do you need us to do?

And respond in service to life, to the web, with heart-mind, where our heads become in service to our hearts rather than

our heads just being in service to our egos and our projections and all the little bits that we haven't yet integrated, then we have no idea where we could go, but it would be really interesting and it would be less likely to be terminal than the trajectory we're on at the moment, which is fundamentally less...

you know the fafo mess around and find out but we're messing around completely blindly and the finding out is first of all creating the sixth mass extinction and probably sending us over the edge of a cliff so with all of that in you seem to be talking to a lot of super smart people who are right on the edge of understanding this and probably much further than me how do we make that step david solve solve humanity for us please in the next half hour

Every cell has a wild clock in it, if I understood correctly.

And so our gut biome, which is trillions of bacteria, they have their own cells, their own wild clocks.

And then our liver has...

Okay, thank you.

In the book, there was just a half sentence that said that we think of time, past, present, future, linear, whereas if I understood it correctly, in Mandarin, it's vertical.

Was that a thing?