Amb. Sam Brownback

where the persecution is the greatest but then that's where the faith grows the most is when it's under pressure and the rest i used to say if people actually understood christianity they wouldn't oppress it and suppress it they would subsidize it if you want to really kill christianity subsidize it uh that it really grows best under pressure

Yeah, it really does.

The ones I've met and many of them have been in jail multiple times and they they call it Chinese seminary.

It's just their faith is so beautiful and it's purified.

And there's a joy and a peace about them that you look at you.

OK, that's the real deal.

I've seen it.

You've been with Jesus.

I can see it.

I'm really concerned.

So much so, and where I was headed in the US, really, before President Trump came in, I got debanked.

The group I helped form, National Committee for Religious Freedom.

I mean, how more American can you be than that?

And we got debanked.

But there was this effort in the West to suffocate faith

and the principles, the natural law principles that faith generally is around from coming into society because they weren't seen as the current cultural norms.

They were against what people wanted to do.

But look, faith has always stood against things that are trending the wrong way or evil in nature.

And it's always been this voice against that, and people want to silence that voice by debanking, deplatforming, and you see it more aggressively in Europe than we had seen it in the United States.

But I've been deeply concerned about that.