Amelia Lester

How is that possible?

Now, there are only 8 billion people in the world, I think.

Who watched that video multiple times?

Me.

300 billion views, that video.

It was a lot of them women.

Now, you watched the Oprah special last week.

So that was part of it, right?

And then you told me an absolutely fascinating thing that she says in it.

Let's have a listen.

Claire, you wrote a whole book about internet pylons and cancel culture.

Were you surprised by that revelation that most of the online hate came from women?

And not to draw too long a bow on it, but I think that's also why we collectively would prefer to believe that Roya stole a harm from Lindy rather than perhaps a more complicated, nuanced idea.

Please do.

It's not my story to tell.

There's an even better tidbit in my view, which is that you remember that Gwyneth Paltrow did the ad for the company after this all came out that was very wink-wink, nudge-nudge, basically trying to explain to everyone what this company did that they both worked at.

Apparently, Gwyneth reached out to Kristen.

Which I think is kind of nice because Kristen expressed some real disappointment that in her view, another woman who's founded this company based on women's empowerment is kind of tearing her down and making fun of her at her lowest moment.

So Gwyneth reached out to her and Kristen said,

And I want to talk about reply-only friends.