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Ana Kasparian

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The Megyn Kelly Show

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Well, I agree with you about forgotten Americans who have either been held hostage by authoritarian governments abroad. It's terrible. So when I see that photo of Mark Fogel kissing the ground, kissing America, essentially, it's an emotional moment.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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And this is one of the good things that the Trump administration has managed to do in the few short weeks that he's been in office for his second term. So credit where credit is due. Absolutely.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Well, Megan, let me just tell you, I mean, while Biden was still in office, one of the things that really infuriated me was the story of a young American citizen, Eisenhower, who was actually protesting with some activists in the West Bank in regard to the high civilian death toll in Gaza. And Israeli snipers shot and killed her. And the Biden administration did not care.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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They pretended as though the Israeli officials had launched an investigation into it, and then we never heard about it again. That was an American citizen, one of our own. And I just think it's unacceptable.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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So I wholeheartedly agree with anyone who's upset with any government official or administration that leaves our American citizens either in the hands of an authoritarian government or left to die with no real investigation and no real justice. That is not leadership. So I totally hear what you're saying.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Right. I mean, look, I want to get our Americans back, right? So if you have to make those types of deals, it is what it is. And I'm sorry, leaving an American middle school teacher to die in a Russian prison or Belarusian prison, if you're talking about the other hostages that have been released, is unacceptable.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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And so if you're willing to release someone who's accused of cyber crimes in order to get an American citizen back, I do think that's a deal worth taking. And You know, to your point about how there wasn't really much attention paid to these issues, especially, you know, the story of the woman that I'm talking about, the protester in the West Bank who was shot and killed.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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I don't know if it's because of the political leanings of the individuals hired at these media organizations, because, look, now Donald Trump is in office. And there is no shortage of critical reporting about his administration. And I think there's nothing wrong with that as long as it's fact based and rooted in evidence.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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But I feel that they kind of treated the Biden administration with kid gloves, just kind of took what the Biden administration had to say at face value. I mean, look, the perfect example is the very obvious cover up of Biden's mental decline. It wasn't something new. There were complaints about that.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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I remember on the Young Turks, we were concerned about that in 2020 when he was running for his first term. And members of the media shut anyone down if they dared to question Biden's mental acuity, his ability to carry out the duties of a president. And so I think that there's a real reckoning taking place right now in regard to our legacy media outlets.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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you know, there are some changes being made because they've lost audiences, they've lost subscribers and readers. People are resorting to other independent sources to get their information because they have realized that they haven't been getting the full story. And look, I think one of the other big issues here is even in the context of independent media sources,

The Megyn Kelly Show

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they do tend to lean in one political direction or the other. And when people are served up one side, we live in two different realities. And I think we need to do a better job speaking with each other, ensuring that we are giving the audiences that trust us and the readers who read our work, all the perspectives involved in any political debate.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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So they're fully informed and they can decide for themselves where they land on the issue. I don't think Americans are getting that right now.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Well, look, I certainly do have some concerns about the conflicts of interest that Elon Musk obviously has. I mean, he's a very successful businessman. He has multiple successful businesses. And look, I get it. He's already super wealthy and people think, oh, he's not going to abuse the power that's been given to him by Trump because he doesn't need any more money. That doesn't matter.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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I mean, look, the most important thing, the most valuable thing that tech CEOs want is Data is power. Data fuels their businesses. And so the idea that someone like Elon Musk, who is in the tech industry, having all this access to our private personal information makes me incredibly uneasy. I also, by the way, agree that there is waste in our federal government.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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There is bureaucracy that needs to be cut down in our federal government. And if you go back to the Clinton administration, I mean, he got rid of hundreds of thousands of federal workers. And I think that that did bode well for our economy. I mean, that was the last time we had an economic surplus in the United States.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Now, of course, he implemented higher taxes for the top marginal tax rate and stuff like that. But when it came to getting rid of the bureaucracy under the Clinton administration, there was more of a review process. And it wasn't this, you know, blind cutting of entire you know, departments or agencies.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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And so I wish there was more method to it, more of a review to ensure that we're actually getting rid of individuals that we don't really necessarily need in our government. I don't like the fact that he has not. Well, Elon Musk didn't do this, but Russell Vought, who's now the head of the Office of Management and Budget and the deputy head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau said,

The Megyn Kelly Show

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has effectively halted all operations at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. I do not agree with that at all. That's literally the only federal government agency that's doing oversight of how the big banks are treating American citizens. They've returned $21 billion to Americans who have been defrauded by financial institutions. So that's where I have the biggest disagreement right now.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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But in regard to doing an overview of what's happening with USAID. I have no problem with that. I think that there were good programs mixed in with a lot of waste and a lot of bad programs.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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And hopefully we can bring those good programs back because, you know, building alliances and relationships through soft power, especially in African countries, which China is competing with us in basically having influence on. I think that's something we need to be considerate of. I mean, the

The Megyn Kelly Show

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The Chinese want to have access to minerals, natural resources, all sorts of things that the United States wants in Africa.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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And so when we cut down on programs that specifically help individuals who are suffering from AIDS, HIV, things like that, malaria, well, we're basically destroying a relationship that's not just beneficial to the individuals we're helping in these countries, but also beneficial for the United States and our own economic interests.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Yeah. So let me just preface this by saying I don't take anything that the left says at face value. I also don't take anything the right says at face value. So there have been instances where the right has claimed something. The left says, no, that's not happening. I look into it and it turns out the right is actually correct. In fact, USAID is a perfect example.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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There were incredibly wasteful programs within USAID as Democrats pretend like there were no wasteful programs. And so I'm Look, the CFPB is something that I have been kind of passionate about throughout my career. I was supportive of it being developed. It was Elizabeth Warren's project before she was even a senator. She wasn't in the Senate at the time. And she really had to push for

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Barack Obama, who was insanely friendly to the banks to actually do something on behalf of the American people who had been defrauded and who had been preyed upon by the big banks in the lead up to the 2008 economic collapse. all the claims that you listed, I have looked into, and they are unfounded, okay?

The Megyn Kelly Show

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So how the CFPB operates is they receive money from the Federal Reserve, not from taxpayers. So the Federal Reserve allocates about $700 million so they can carry out investigations of wrongdoing by payday lenders, big banks, you get the picture, or other financial institutions.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Through that money, which is honestly a small sum, they have been able to return $21 billion to Americans who had been defrauded or screwed over or ripped off by the banks. Other things that they've done is they have basically made it So your medical debt cannot be used on your credit report to prevent you from being able to rent a home, an apartment.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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They've ensured that overdraft fees are not predatory and they're capped at eight dollars as opposed to thirty five dollars.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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So so they've done some really, really good things on behalf of the American people. Look, I am disgusted with our federal government. OK, all these federal agencies have not carried out what their intended duties have been. I think that they have kind of lost their way in some cases. And I do agree that there's a lot of bureaucracy and a lot of waste. The CFPB is not an example of that.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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And I'm really saddened to see that there's a real effort here to essentially dismantle it. And I was listening to the Federal Reserve Chair.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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So I'll tell you why. I'm most concerned about the influence that the tech industry and tech CEOs have on the Trump administration. So people like Marc Andreessen, for instance, he went on Joe Rogan's podcast and he claimed that the CFPB is debanking people when it's actually the opposite. The CFPB goes after banks that debank individuals over their political leanings or political views.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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They actually have gone out of their way to try to protect Americans who have been debanked. The CFPB, though, does go after individuals who are engaging in things like money laundering, right, who are maybe part of the fintech industry and are using that sector to carry out nefarious actions. And so they don't want to cop on the block. And these are people who have been cozying up to Trump.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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And that is really concerning because I think Trump has some good ideas, but he's also very transactional. And so if these individuals have donated a significant sum of money to his campaign, well, he's going to return the favor in some way. And so that's what I'm most worried about.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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If American people notice that there's no cop watching what Wall Street's up to, that might end up, you know, ricocheting onto Donald Trump and it might actually hurt him politically. So we'll see what happens. But CFPB was, again, one of the only federal government agencies that was looking out for the best interests of Americans who were getting ripped off by big banks.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Wow. Yeah. Look, I haven't looked into his claims, so I don't know for sure if the way he described it is entirely accurate. I think there are two things happening here. Right. So there is the message. Right. And so I think a lot of what he says needs to be fact checked. And I haven't been able to do that. By the way, there are a lot of fact checks by the left of Elon today saying it's true.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Interesting. OK, so that's that's fascinating. But I want to just talk about the optics and the politics of what happened last night, because I know the Democrats are being super critical because at the end of the day, Elon Musk is a billionaire. He's got conflicts of interest. And so it's rich to hear someone like Elon Musk tell us, just trust me, we're doing everything right.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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It's all above board. At the same time, though, when you compare what appears to be quite a bit of transparency in this new Trump administration versus the lack of transparency we received during the Biden administration, well, I mean, optically speaking, I think most Americans are going to have this sense that You know, Trump is telling the truth. He wants to be honest with us.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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He's calling it like it is. You know, he's constantly in the media, constantly doing press conferences. And so I think that is an important thing for the Democratic Party to maybe... Soak in and realize, you know, if you're going to try to hide from your voters, if you're going to try to hide the ball from your base, it's not going to bode well for you. The optics of transparency is important.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Actually being transparent is more important. And so it really remains to be seen if if Elon Musk was telling the truth about everything he said during that Oval Office press conference. But. Again, I just want to reiterate, I don't feel comfortable with someone who's still very much invested in these private businesses, you know, seeming to call the shots when no one elected him.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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I also didn't like the optics of Donald Trump kind of like quietly sitting at a desk with Elon Musk kind of hovering above him and kind of commanding the room. I feel like that looked a little bad, but I'm curious.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Yeah, and look... We all know what we pay in taxes every year. And it is incredibly frustrating to see where the money actually gets spent, how little of it goes toward modernizing our systems, and essentially how little of it goes to making the lives of American citizens better. There is a lot of waste.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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I mean, look, one of the main things that drives me crazy is how year after year with little debate, The Congress approves more and more money for the Pentagon. I mean, the defense budget is is very rapidly approaching a trillion dollars a year. And so there has been some talk about focusing on some waste. I mean, the Pentagon has failed every single audit seven years in a row.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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And so I'm excited to see what Doge focuses on in regard to the Pentagon. The other has welcomed them to come in. He's Hegseth wants that, too. So we'll see what they cut and see how much of a difference it makes.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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The other area where I think that Trump can really make a difference, and I think he would go down as a historic president, is if he allowed for our Medicare system to negotiate drug prices, just negotiate.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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But he would go down as the most popular president in American history if he allowed for Medicare to negotiate drug prices so Americans and our Medicare system wasn't being price gouged by pharmaceutical companies.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Honestly, I think if this issue was brought to him by anyone in a very serious way, he would attempt to do it. He doesn't really care about what is or isn't allowed, right? So yeah, I mean, that would be incredible. I don't think that he's paying attention to that. But I think if you talk to him and ask him to work on that issue, it could really save the American taxpayers a lot of money.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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It would embarrass Democrats so much if they managed to do that. It would be the most embarrassing thing for Democrats who claimed under the Biden administration that they were gonna do it, but they're beholden to the pharmaceutical companies as well. And so they whittled down that part of the agenda to 10 drugs that the Medicare system can negotiate. I mean, it's pathetic, it really is.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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I mean, I would have tweaked it for sure, but not by much, just a little bit. I would have just showcased these incredibly successful, strong, accomplished women without having that, like, tinge of victimhood associated with it. Yes, yes. Because these women have accomplished amazing things. They're incredible, and I feel like it kind of takes away from their accomplishments to, like...

The Megyn Kelly Show

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add that, like, weird victimhood thing to it. Like, look, this is the reality, okay? Are there misogynistic people out there? Sure. Yeah, there are. But steamroll them, okay? Steamroll them like these women did, okay? They don't control us, and they don't control our destiny. If you're willing to work hard, if you're willing to focus and be persistent, you can do anything you want to do, period.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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And these women did. So I just... As a woman, I don't want to deal with the just like the incessant labeling of like victimhood because of my identity. Right. And I think that happens to a lot of different groups.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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I hate this crap. I hate all of this crap. Okay. We just got through with an election cycle that really highlighted significant divisions between men and women. I feel like there's this effort to pit Americans against each other, depending on their identity or based on their identity. I don't see men as the enemy here. Okay. I think men in America have their own issues and

The Megyn Kelly Show

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that need to be addressed. Obviously, the male loneliness crisis is a real crisis. If you look at graduation rates, women are graduating at higher rates than men are from higher education, from colleges and institutions like that. And so, look, I just think we need to heal. The country needs to heal. And these divisions based on identity like we need to stop taking the bait.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Like, I think there's a lot of bait right now and it's a distraction. And in reality, we need to be hyper-focused on how to improve the material conditions of Americans, period. That is what should be the focus. And look... Corporations like Nike are going to put out ads like that because they think that it's going to help them maximize their profits. Sometimes they hit the mark.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Sometimes they don't. Bud Light, of course. Conservatives decided to rain hell on Bud Light over the whole Dylan Mulvaney thing. I think these companies are probably better off not weighing in on culture war stuff because it only further divides Americans. And You're trying to sell us shoes and sports equipment. Focus on that.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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I say you're going to put me in trouble, Megan. You're going to put me in trouble, Megan. You're going to give me another like month of my mentions full of people losing their minds because yeah, it's unfair. I agree. It is unfair. And the vast majority of Americans agree that it's unfair. Only 18% of Americans support the notion of biological males competing against biological females.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Yeah. And I just look, I disagree with your framing a little bit, because at the end of the day, I see the humanity in everyone, including transgender women. And so I want to be respectful to them. But I also want you know, I want that to be reciprocated. I want some acknowledgement in regard to the biological differences between males and females.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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And for people who don't think that's a big deal, well, you represent a tiny, tiny, minuscule percentage of Americans who think that it's totally fine for someone to compete against biological females if they're male one day and then identify as female the next day. You know, it's just it's not fair. It's a question of fairness. And if the left has decided that fairness doesn't matter.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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well, they're going to lose a lot of support. And I think that that did hurt them significantly in this last election cycle.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Well, I have some experience with this, not necessarily meeting with Donald Trump, of course, but, you know, the culture where you're not supposed to talk to the other side at all. I mean, I've lost friends for my willingness to come on shows like this one because I think it's important to have these conversations. I do think that there are areas of common ground.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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It doesn't mean you need to be a Trump supporter, but. Trump is the president of the United States, meaning he's meant to represent everyone, including individuals who did not vote for him. And if the left in general is unwilling to even have a conversation with anyone on the right, including the president, well, how are you ever going to expect him to consider

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So I actually think opening up dialogue with individuals you disagree with is more important than just existing in this echo chamber where you're going to hear everything you want to hear, where your ideas are going to be validated, and quite frankly, where the lack of challenge to your ideas will make you quite weak and unappealing eventually to the electorate.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Knowing Bill Maher's values, it's unlikely. I do think that they have some common ground because of the fact that Bill Maher is willing to call out some of the pathologies on the left, some of the culture, cultural issues on the left, the closed mindedness and stuff like that. So I think that finding that common ground is important.

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And I think that's what kind of opened up this situation where they can sit down and have a conversation with each other. But that doesn't necessarily mean that Bill Maher is going to be like a red hat wearing Trump supporter tomorrow. It just means that at least he had a dialogue. Maybe he's better. He's better suited to understand where Trump is coming from and vice versa.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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It's just an important thing to do when you have two major public figures who disagree with each other come together. And I think what Kid Rock said about the importance of healing the country is very much true. Again, you have two very different sides.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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But is there a way that the two different sides can work together where they have common ground and also not engage in this really disgusting fear mongering and dehumanization that we've seen in this country for the last several decades in regard to the other side? We need to get past that because we need to bring Americans together.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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I hate the fact that we've been dehumanizing each other for so long.

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Yeah, I mean, look, I think that there are a few different things happening simultaneously. And I definitely played a role in it. And then once I realized how toxic it was, I tried to kind of reform the way that, you know, the majority of people on the left think about engaging in dialogue. So if you want to have...

The Megyn Kelly Show

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Any influence or sway over people in positions of power, whether it be a member of the media, whether it be a politician or even the president of the United States, you can't just close yourself off to talking to the other side. Right. And if you do, then you're not going to have any influence.

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You're going to be part of your cutesy little exclusive club where you engage in purity contests and you purge people away or purge people out of your group. Whereas, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong about this and I'm going to ask you.

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I feel that the right wing, whether they're doing it because of who they are, their own personal culture and how they value conversations, or whether they're doing it as a way of accumulating power, they bring people in. Even if there are some significant disagreements... If there are areas where they can find commonality or agreement with the other side, they're super welcoming and inviting.

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And that's how you build power. That's how you build power. I mean, you bring people in, you don't push people out.

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I mean, I'm not even pro MAGA. I'm just someone who's willing to have these types of conversations and I've lost friends over that. You know, my core values haven't changed, but I also realized that on some issues, I didn't have all the information and I changed my mind based on additional information I was exposed to. But, you know, the...

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Cultish treatment of politics, I think, has been really, really toxic for this country. And if you're already at a point where you're automatically dehumanizing the other side or a member of the other side, you've gone way, way too far. And you're actually taking part in what's ripping the country apart. So I'm not a Kid Rock fan. I want to be clear about that.

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But the fact that he, out of all these people... Out of all these people was able to set up a meeting between Bill Maher and Donald Trump is admirable. So I'm glad that Bill Maher did it. I hope that he doesn't get too much backlash because I don't see him as someone who's going to go out and start cheerleading the Trump administration. But I don't even he's leading by example.

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Well, I have seen a lot of posts like that. But look, I'm just going to say she seems to know herself and what she wants really well. And she's going for it. So go for it. You know, I actually don't have any ill feelings toward her at all because she's determined. I'm unwilling to move even an inch on on my politics.

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But I do agree that she might be closing herself off to individuals that would be wonderful for her, including her now ex-boyfriend, because people change, people grow and they shift their positions on issues here and there. I think it's wrong to think that, you know, someone's political identity can't be fluid. I think it's fluid to some extent.

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What I find really interesting is that he agreed with her on social issues and the agreement on social issues. It's what's really likely to lead to a smoother relationship. You know, if he's more fiscally conservative, I don't think that's necessarily something that should be a deal breaker. I'll tell you something, though.

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Yeah, look, I have a broader point to make about that culture, and it goes well beyond wives posting about their husbands. Please stop airing your dirty laundry on social media. Honestly, have a little bit of respect, a modicum of respect for the people in your personal life, even if you're in the middle of a feud with them. How about respect their privacy and work it out privately?

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You don't need a bunch of random strangers chiming in on your relationship. I would never in a million years do that to my husband or my friends or to my colleagues, which has been done to me many, many times. I think it's disgusting. It shows a lack of maturity. Have the conversation privately. Work out your own drama and your own issues privately. So that's point number one.

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Point number two is, look, a marriage, as I'm sure you know, it's a partnership. And I think when you fail to see it as a partnership and you instead kind of like tally who's doing what and whether or not you're pulling your weight or he's pulling his weight, that's just a toxic environment to function in, to have a relationship in. And so I learned that lesson pretty early on in my marriage.

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I remember in the very beginning, it was like, okay, he's got his bank account. I've got my bank account and he's going to pay these bills. I'm going to pay those bills for some marriages that works out. But I remember, you know, Cenk Uygur, my co-host and the founder of the Young Turks, he kind of pulled me aside and said, you're kind of paving a path to a lot of conflict here.

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You have to see your marriage as a partnership and don't think of it as his money versus my money. And honestly, that was the best advice I ever got in my marriage. And we do really well together. And I don't, you know, he's not keeping track of whether I'm pulling my weight. I'm not keeping track of whether he's pulling his weight. We have mutual love and mutual respect for each other.

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And we look out for each other. That's a, that's in my opinion, a successful marriage.

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What do you make of it? Well, it's always made me uncomfortable, especially because I think the best possible situation is a situation in which women get to decide. Right. So if they decide they want to be stay at home mothers, I think it's important to have the economic conditions that allow for that to happen. And I have a lot of respect for stay at home moms. I agree with you.

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I think that's literally the most difficult job in the world. And it's important for kids to have that close relationship with their mother growing up, especially in like the formative years. But I do think that it's possible for mothers to work and still be great mothers. The thing is, a lot of women don't even have that choice. You get what I'm saying?

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Especially in this current economy with inflation. So I would love to live in a world where I could be a stay-at-home, you know, housewife. But... It's just not realistic. You know, we got to pay our bills and we both have to work. But I really do think if we had that economic situation in place, a lot of women would choose to be stay at home mothers and it should be their choice.

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I don't think it's anyone's place to judge the decisions that are made by any family. Right. It's up to that family to decide what works best for them and whether or not they could afford the setup that they want to pursue.

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Yeah, I mean, look, I totally agree with you. I'm of two minds of this, though, because if you are a young man and you know what you want and you think you have the earning power to literally carry the entire family financially, well, then I guess wait around until you find the right woman for you. But I think most women, not all, but most women, even conservative women,

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think it's important to have some level of financial independence, right? I mean, you never know if your marriage is going to go perfectly well. Things could fall apart. And if you haven't been in the job market at all for a long time, it's going to be difficult for you to get back in. So, look, it really depends on the guy. And if he really has a problem with his wife working, well, then...

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That's on him. And I think he's actually going to have some difficulty finding a partner. But there's so many factors to consider, including the financial difficulty of living in a single income household where you're trying to raise kids. And look, I also think whether these guys want to believe it or not, when you have a stay at home wife.

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I've seen too many instances of this resentment building because for whatever reason, guys tend to think that, oh, well, she's staying home. She's not out there working as hard as I am. She's just home raising the kids. She has a comfortable life. I'm providing for her. This resentment starts to build. And I've seen it all over the place. I've seen it in context, like my own family.

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I've seen it outside of my family. And so I think... They don't really know what they're asking for here, but I could be wrong. Who knows? And I agree with you. I think that it is important to have strong female voices on both sides of the political aisle.

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And I think they could really be hurting the conservative movement by essentially, you know, banning women from taking part in conservative media. I mean, you're one of the strongest conservative voices, you know, female voices out there. So if you didn't exist, I don't know. I just don't think the conservative message would be as powerful.

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Right. Look, I think that I remember you had put out some tweet and a lot of conservative women were like dogpiling on you. And I think the reason why that happened is because There's always this statement about how women can have it all. And I agree with you. I think women can be mothers. I think they can raise a family and still have a career.

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But that message also needs to be followed up with the reality of how it is challenging and it's incredibly difficult. Right. It's not as easy as it is. For a man. And that's because of the gender dynamics at play. You know, a woman, women in general tend to be more nurturing. That's the evolutionary advantage that women have. They're the ones who do the nurturing of the family, of the children.

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And so when you add a career on top of that, that becomes very challenging and difficult. And you... I can see women kind of pushing back because they're probably exhausted. They're probably raising a family while also juggling a career. And I think they just want that validation. They want that acknowledgement of how much more difficult it is to do that.

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Well, I actually have a question for you because. Look, I'm personally disgusted with the fact that he's like having all these children with different women. And for a long time, you know, that was one of the areas where I agreed with conservatives. Right. Like conservatives would be pretty judgmental toward men that would act that way or behave that way.

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Now, I see that very differently from someone who established a family. But. For whatever reason, the marriage falls apart. They unfortunately get a divorce. And then later on in life, he finds someone else and has another family. Right. I don't want to be too judgmental toward people like that. Life happens. It is what it is.

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But with Elon Musk, it's like he's intentionally having children with different women. I don't think that's something to celebrate. And I'm kind of shocked that conservatives haven't been more willing to kind of, you know, criticize him for that. And I get, by the way, I agree with you with Ashley St. Clair. I yeah. What did you expect, Ashley?

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He had already had a bunch of children from different women prior to you having his child. Allegedly, you know, we don't know for sure the paternity and he's called it into question. But I don't understand why it's okay to celebrate a guy who's this careless and irresponsible with bringing children into this world.

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I found his jokes a little funny, but I'll say this. He saw the he saw the Mike flag. It was the Newsmax Mike flag. And he didn't want to give him anything. That's that's all that was. He just didn't want to give them anything to broadcast. You know, maybe he doesn't trust them. Maybe he thinks they're going to take him out of context. Who knows?

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But to me, it was clear he didn't want to speak to conservative media.

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I think there's this mistake made by a lot of folks on the left. And I want to be clear about how wrong they are. So I get that media representing the other side might be adversarial. They might ask you provocative questions.

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But I actually think there's a lot of value speaking to them, not because you're trying to win the host over or the reporter over, but because you are sharing your message and your beliefs with an entirely new audience that may not have heard the arguments that you are making. It's not about the big public figures that you're talking to. You're not going to win them over. That's clear.

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But you are sharing a message with half the country that might not have otherwise heard that message. So it's look, do you want to persuade people or not? And if you're not interested in persuading people, that's fine. But I would venture to say that if you are in the public making political arguments, the reason why you're doing it is to persuade people.

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What's the point of just preaching to the choir and just talking to people in your echo chamber? It's more effective to talk to people you disagree with.

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Well, you know, it's it's interesting because I do think both sides of the political aisle do this to some extent. You know, it's it's an effort to kind of make the candidate appear more popular than they really are. And it has a bandwagon effect, right, where some voters who might might not be as politically engaged will see this mess.

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manufactured popularity, but they won't know it's manufactured. And they'll think, well, a lot of people like this guy or this gal. So I'm going to cast my ballot for that individual. But I think things have changed in our political environment where people are a lot more engaged because there's a lot of the line. You know, they have a stake in the game, whether it's the economy or something else.

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I just think that the Democrats being obsessed with that billionaire money is what has led to them being failures in the political system. They need to listen to the voters and ignore the billionaires. And that's how they actually bolster their popularity as opposed to doing whatever it was that Kamala was up to.

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There needs to be some social searching. I question whether that's really taking place right now within the Democratic establishment. And unfortunately, what I'm seeing in liberal media is this effort to provide cover for what the Democrats did in the last election cycle, while simultaneously condemning the authors of any book that

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sheds a negative light on the Biden administration and the Biden camp. And to be quite frank with you, I'm just tired of political figures, whether we're talking about Democrats or Republicans, who are more interested in their own political ambitions, in their own money-making capability, as opposed to serving as public servants to do what's right for their party, for their constituents.

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I just see this whole situation as one big egotistical mess. And the party will continue losing as long as they fail to take a moment, just a beat to self-reflect and figure out what they need to do to reform, to move forward and be a far more appealing party. Right now, they are not an appealing party. The polls indicate that.

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Well, it's thought of as the party of scolds, and they do need to move away from that, especially if they're looking to build a coalition large enough to win critical elections.

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And really, I think a lot of Americans are fatigued by constantly looking over their shoulder, worried that they might say the wrong thing, worried that they might be cast off as some sort of bigot or racist because they accidentally used a word that's no longer in vogue with the whole of the Democratic Party. Look, I think most Americans are good people.

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And I think when culture changes, we have to have some grace with individuals to change along with it or to adapt with those changes. I think most Americans are good people who are not bigoted, who are not racist, who are not hateful, but want to live in a pluralistic society that treats all sides and all identities fairly. And what you kind of see with the Democratic Party right now is just this

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Hyper emphasis on all the things that this country has done wrong in the past, what needs to be done moving forward to right those wrongs. And in the meantime, there's just a lot of hateful rhetoric being spewed at people who might have identified as Democrats their entire lives, might have voted as Democrats their entire lives.

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But there might be a social issue here or there that they're not comfortable with. Or maybe they're worried about what they're experiencing in the big city that they're living in that's currently being run by Democratic lawmakers, Democratic governor or mayor. And they want to see some changes and reforms.

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But if they voice their opinion on those reforms, they'll get dogpiled all over the Internet. And they'll be made out to be like a terrible person. And I just... What I'm seeing on the right right now, and again, I don't know if this is just what

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happens to be part of the culture on the right, or if it's a political strategy, there's less judgment and more openness to absorbing people into their party. And that's how you win. That's how you win. Now, look, I'm not saying, oh, Democrats need to throw their principles out of the window. They should absorb a Nazi or a self-described Klansman. No, I'm not saying that.

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But you and I both know that there are all sorts of people who have lost their jobs, who have been made targets by the left because of the fact that, hey, you know what? I wanted police reform. I didn't want to abolish the police. Hey, you know what? I see a place for prisons in our society. I do want prison reform, but I don't want to abolish prisons.

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Those are the type of people who tend to get attacked. And I know that because I happen to be one of them.

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Right. And, you know, I would just warn the right about what they're currently seeing on the left, because I do see some pretty prominent figures on the right. who have kind of taken on that purity culture where they're looking to do purity tests of people on the right. And if you're not perfectly in line with what the right wants or what the Trump administration wants, well, you're not welcome.

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You're not wanted. And if that type of culture festers, well, conservatives are going to lose too.

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Megan, if I could be a mouthpiece and rake in the big bucks, I mean, I don't know if I would do it, but I know that I'm not capable of doing it, right? So part of the reason why I find myself in this terrible situation that I'm in, where I'm basically rejected by the left, but I don't fit in with the right, really. Like, I... So I'm kind of in no man's land right now. And it's not fun.

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It's pretty awful. But the reason why I'm there is because I have to be authentic. I have to be honest with my audience. It's both selfish because I can't help but just tell people how I actually feel about the issues we talk about. But it's also because I respect my audience. I want my audience to know the truth.

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And so if I see the left doing something that's counterproductive, if I see something that I don't like, I'm going to speak out. about it. And the reason why I do that is because there's still a little bit of hope that maybe they'll learn some lessons.

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Maybe they'll heed the advice and recalibrate some of their behavior and some of their policies so they can attract a broad coalition of voters to support them. But instead, what I've noticed by the Democratic Party is that rather than self reflect, they like to lash out. they see us as their public servants instead of them being our public servants. And that is a huge, huge problem.

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So I want to reiterate, I don't fit in on the right. I have some pretty serious left-wing policy preferences. But culturally speaking, the left... I find repulsive at times and intentionally so. I mean, they're intentionally behaving that way.

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And it's totally selfish because it's more about how they feel and how they want to purge certain people out of the party, as opposed to thinking about what they need to do to, again, attract a broad coalition of Americans who are willing to buy in to their agenda and program.

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Right. And Joe Rogan's popularity is not manufactured. It was organic. And the part of the reason why it's organic growth, organic popularity is because he's willing to sit down and have conversations with almost anyone. I mean, one of my friends, his name is Ben Burgess. He's a self-identified Marxist. Joe Rogan interviewed him. Joe Rogan will interview people from across the political spectrum.

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He'll interview people who have nothing to do with politics at all, but they're in a field of work that's super fascinating. That's the way that he grew a massive audience, a massive diverse audience.

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Now, of course, because of the fact that he had endorsed Donald Trump in the last election and prior to that had been critical of some of the transgender policies as it pertains to women's sports and minors. The left had kind of turned on him earlier. However, he still has this massive audience. I'll listen to the podcast when he has a guest that I'm interested in hearing from.

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And if they think that they're just going to throw money at a problem, the Democrats, and manufacture the next Joe Rogan that's going to help them win elections, I think they're just going to be wasting a lot of money. And they're just going back to what I believe is the biggest issue within the Democratic Party at the moment right now, which is the political bribes, right?

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You're going to raise money. Okay, great. But that money comes with strings attached. They know that. And oftentimes those donors want goodies that the voters do not want. And that's why you had Kamala Harris trying to like, you know, do this ridiculous balancing act where she's trying to appease the donors. without upsetting left-wing voters. But the voters weren't buying it because guess what?

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Well, first off, you know, if he's genuine and sincere about wanting to lower pharmaceutical drug prices, obviously I commend him. You're absolutely right in that he wouldn't be able to do this unilaterally. He would need Congress to act. I think one of the Republican lawmakers in Congress who are bribed, bought by the pharmaceutical industry.

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And they essentially said immediately after Trump on, I believe it was on May 11th, when he had hinted that he was going to sign this executive order, you heard from Republican lawmakers who essentially said, no, this is dead on arrival. We're not going to include this in our budget bill. There's no way we're going to do it. Even though

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Negotiating for lower pharmaceutical drug prices or implementing a policy, the most favored nation policy that would cap pharmaceutical drug prices in America to that of the country that's paying the least amount, that would save the most amount of money in taxpayer money when it comes to our Medicare system. Yeah. Yeah. All these fiscal hawks, right?

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The so-called fiscal hawks who wanted to torpedo Trump's agenda didn't propose that. And I wonder why, why aren't you proposing for the Medicare system to be able to big pharma money?

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Yeah. I mean, Bernie's back. And what I mean by that is he's realized that you can't really play nice with the Democratic establishment and expect to get your policy priorities passed, expect them to help you out in whatever your agenda might be. And You know, 2015, 2016 Bernie, when he was running in the 2016 race, was a little different from 2020 Bernie.

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And what I mean by that is as soon as the Democratic establishment saw an economic populace like Bernie Sanders gain the kind of momentum he did, they cynically used identity politics to crush him. Oh, you're not addressing BLM.

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I mean, I remember during one of his campaign rallies, two people from BLM just jumped on stage, interrupted the entire event, called him out for allegedly not caring about Black bodies or Black lives. And it was just utter, ridiculous, cynical use of identity politics to crush someone. And in the end, I mean, what did the party get? In the end, Trump got elected in 2016, of course.

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Then in 2020, you have Joe Biden, who was able to run from his basement because of covid. But the only reason why I think Biden won in that election or in that race is because of the fact that, you know, many Americans didn't like the way Trump handled the coronavirus. So I think by the time you get to 2024, People were just done with Democrats because they're sick.

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Honestly, people are sick of the identity politics. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't fight for a just cause. If you see instances of discrimination, obviously something should be done about it. But it wasn't really about doing something about discrimination or doing something about our... broken law enforcement system or anything like that.

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It was used cynically to crush economic populace within the Democratic Party. But now what I'm noticing with Bernie and AOC, by the way, is they've kind of shed a lot of that rhetoric because they realize- She did. Exactly. I mean, it's look, if AOC is willing to self-reflect and realize, OK, I was pushing for things that most Americans, including Democrats, weren't into.

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And I need to go back to the bread and butter issues. Great. I think that's a good way to kind of move forward for Democrats. But I mean, she's she needs a long runway to kind of rebrand herself as an economic populist, similar to who Bernie Sanders is.

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No, well said, well said. That's the Bernie Sanders that I supported in 2015 and 2016. I also voted for him in the primaries in 2020. But by then, he had allowed the Democratic establishment to essentially tinker with his campaign. So he was kind of paying lip service to the culture warriors who really, in my opinion, don't really give a damn about the causes that they allegedly fight for.

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They're more interested in having an excuse to go around scolding people and destroying campaigns of politicians that actually want to be public servants who actually care about working class families in this country. And that was absolutely disgusting that that happened to Bernie in 2016 and to some extent in 2020 as well. But What you heard from Bernie right there, in my opinion,

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is a winning brand of politics. Americans wanna be left alone when it comes to their personal lives, okay? They don't wanna be judged because they're living in a traditional conservative household. They don't wanna be judged if they happen to be gay and wanna marry a partner of the same sex. They just want the government out of their personal lives entirely. But there is a role for the government.

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The role for the government is to protect the American people. not only from criminals, not only from foreign threats, but also from corporate greed. And that was the message of Bernie Sanders's campaigns and the corporate Democrats loathed him. And so they used identity politics cynically to destroy his campaigns, his possibilities of winning. Why did they loathe him? But like, why?

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You should ask their corporate donors. You should ask Third Way. Third Way, a think tank that essentially helps to aid and abet the neoliberalism brain rot that has infected the Democratic Party.

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Your thoughts on this is I think this is pathetic. It really is. I mean, it's just it's not even difficult to figure this out. It's journalism 101. You can't just take what any politician says at face value.

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So if a politician tells you they're passing this incredible bill and it's full of all these wonderful provisions that are going to improve the lives of Americans, should a journalist serve as a stenographer and simply jot down the quote without fact checking it? I mean, look, I get what Jake Tapper is trying to get at here. No, no.

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But the Biden camp was telling us X, Y and Z. OK, why are you so gullible? Why are you willing to believe what a political campaign that has an interest in lying to you has to say, and you're willing to literally ignore what you see with your own two eyes, what you hear with your own two ears? Come on.

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I've listened to now several doctors in various interviews talk about the likelihood that Joe Biden didn't know about his condition until he announced it. And the vast majority of them disagree that he just found out about it. I'm not a medical expert. What I am an expert in is the fact that the Democratic Party has been lying to us. There was a cover up about his cognitive decline.

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Why am I to just believe at face value that he just found out about this diagnosis when he announced it? He has no credibility.

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That's a good point. I hadn't thought of that, but you're right. I mean, if you wanted to prove it, you could have some sort of evidence, some sort of note indicating that he wasn't given the test to, you know, find or detect.

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I don't think that's fair. I wouldn't implement a policy like that. But as I was listening to you talk about the likelihood of Biden having known about his condition, having gone through that treatment, I couldn't help but think about all the enablers around Biden who encouraged him to run for reelection and who kept lying to all of us on television and their interviews.

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Mike Donilon, his chief strategist, happened to be one of them. Yes. And I want to just briefly talk about incentives and disincentives, because Donilon didn't care about the American people. Donilon, I would venture to say, doesn't even give a damn about the Bidens or Joe Biden, with whom he's had a relationship with for a very long time. I would venture to say that Donilon saw...

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his reelection race as a money-making opportunity. Because as we've learned from Tapper and Thompson's book, he was paid disproportionately compared to other campaign workers. He was paid, what, $4 million? $4 million. Yeah, because Biden told the campaign, pay Donilon whatever he wants. Well, he asked for $4 million and he got it.

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So if you see a money-making opportunity where you can rake in millions of dollars, would you engage in elder abuse? I would venture to say that most people would be disgusted by that and would not. But Donilon had no problem doing it. Knowing what Biden's condition was, he's very close to Biden. I don't believe for a second that Mike Donilon didn't know what Biden's condition was.

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Look, I feel the same way when it comes to Morning Joe. How the hell is Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough still employed at MSNBC? I mean, isn't that a stain on the mark of that cable news network? Like, let's just, I mean, they lied the loudest in the lead up to the election, but okay. The most vigorously.

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I think that the establishment, the Democratic establishment is going to hope and bank on people having short attention spans and just rally around Kamala Harris or whoever was in on the cover up. I don't know if it's going to work. I would venture to say that it would be far, far better for them to look for new, fresh faces, you know, make room for new leadership.

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But I mean, it's like Gollum in the ring. It's like, oh, precious, precious. It's power. And they don't want to let it go. And they've got to let it go. If you care about the country, if you care about doing what's best, if you want to, for once in your life, actually serve as a public servant, do the right thing and make room for fresh new leadership. But they're not going to do that.

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Right. Look, politicians lie, as we know, all politicians lie on both sides of the political aisle. So if you take a pledge to never interview a politician who has lied publicly or lied to you, you're never going to have an interview with a politician again. So I can kind of see where he's coming from.

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What I would look out for, though, as anyone watching cable news, I know that that audience is quickly dwindling. But nonetheless, if you still watch cable news and you're still willing to give someone like Jake Tapper a chance, pay close attention to whether he fact checks politicians, whether he asks questions.

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tough follow-up questions or whether he's willing to just accept what figures from one political party have to say at face value. Because I think that's what the problem was. You know, he had no problem calling out the lies of Republican lawmakers or members of the Trump camp. But for whatever reason, there seemed to be this favoritism toward the Democratic Party and Democratic figures.

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And that's where he got himself into a lot of trouble. The other thing I would say, and this isn't just for the media, this is just for voters of all political persuasions. You know, there's a lot of tribalism in the country. I felt in that trap for a long time as well, where I thought, you know, Republicans are lying about everything and I'm not going to believe anything they have to say.

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They're just making things up. Well, because I had that mindset, I actually missed. some of what was going on in the country that they were trying to raise some alarm about. And so don't automatically assume that your political opponents are bringing up issues that don't really exist.

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They might be exaggerating, there might be some hyperbole, but it's worth digging into to see if there's a legitimate concern. And I say the same for Republican voters as well. Don't just write off Democrats as individuals you shouldn't listen to. And I'm specifically talking about voters here, right? Love your fellow American, regardless of their political affiliation.

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OK, obviously, there are exceptions for people who make a point to be hateful, loathsome human beings. But I don't think the majority of Americans fall in that category. When it comes to people in positions of power, whether they be Democrats or Republicans, hold them accountable. Fact check them. Don't just believe what they have to say at face value.

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I think there's a reason why 80% of Americans... are not in favor of what you just described. 80% of Americans, according to polling, find it to be deeply unfair because biology does matter. I don't think that transgender people should be treated inhumanely, but I also don't think that we should create situations in which women are treated unfairly. And in this case, it's just unfair.

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It's that simple. And by the way, the governor of California, Gavin Newsom, says that it's unfair. And I don't think it makes him look better to, on one hand, say it's unfair. And then on the other hand, to just allow it to keep happening in the state of California. But He wants to have his cake and eat it, too.

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And I don't think it's going to work out that way because simply calling it unfair is enough to get the activists riled up and angry with you. And you've done nothing to protect the fairness of women's sports in the state of California. So basically, he's made everyone angry. No one's happy. And the unfairness continues.

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Yeah, I mean, Gavin Newsom is a slimy snake of a politician, and I don't really know what he believes. All I know is the person he fights for the hardest is himself. And so he'll say anything to anyone if he thinks it's going to help him politically. And in the meantime, people in his state continue to suffer.

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I want to just, you know, not to deflect because I think this is unfair and it's gross for him to say so, but then do nothing about it. But I just wanna give you a sense of how poorly he has governed this state. Because now California, the highest tax state in this country, is facing a $12 billion deficit. So he put out his budget proposal.

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He is proposing to make Medicaid recipients, the poorest Americans among us, pay $100 a month in premiums to get Medicaid benefits. So he's essentially punishing the poorest among us for his poor governance. He's a terrible politician, terrible person.

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I just wanted to say, I think that the Democrats really leaning into campaigning on fear is a bad idea because people are sick of it. They're fatigued by it. I don't think most people are buying it at this point. And voters are looking at their own households, their own personal finances, and they want representation that improves their lives. And just constantly voting for...

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someone because he's not Donald Trump or she's not Donald Trump is not really an inspiring message. So I just, I really hope that they wake up to that fact. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And look, the other thing I'll say is, I actually think that one of the things that Musk did with X, and I will admit, I was very skeptical going into it, but community notes ended up being fantastic.

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And in fact, the era of censorship on social media Yep. thought that that was a terrible way of responding to what was going on. I think the best way to fight misinformation is through more speech. And the way that it's been implemented on X is excellent. I think community notes is fantastic. So that's what Facebook wants to do. I think that's the right way to go about it.

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Yeah. Well, look, I I find what he said there entirely dubious because he had pushed for the type of culture that we're currently dealing with right now, because everything that was incentivized on his platform was the extreme ends of the political spectrum. So he says people are really looking for the truth.

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Well, the people that were really promoted on your platform for a long time were individuals who were on the extreme left or the extreme right, especially when it comes to some of the cultural issues. Anyone who wanted to be reasonable, who wanted to be fair, who wanted to – go for evidence based commentary was not really incentivized on that platform for a long, long time.

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And so I think that's part of the reason why you now have two political parties that have a difficult time speaking to each other. And I'm not talking about those in power. I'm talking about the actual voters. And what I'm trying to do through the work I'm putting out there at TYT is to get Democratic voters to understand that the voters on the other side of the aisle are not a monolith.

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They're not Nazis. They're not going to come for you. They're not going to imprison you. They're not going to, you know, bust into your home with guns and murder you. Like, All of the fear mongering that was promoted on these platforms is untrue.

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And the only way that we're going to save this country is if we open up lines of dialogue and speak to each other again and actually see each other as human beings who might have political disagreements, who might want to engage in hot debates. And that's totally fine. But you have to see the humanity in people first. And that has been disincentivized over the last, I would say, 10 years.

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Yeah. And look, I would say that one of Trump's flaws is the fact that he says things that are extreme and irresponsible and he hurts himself that way because I think that he does have some good instincts and those good instincts get totally drowned out by some of the more irresponsible rhetoric he engages in. And of course, the Democratic Party is going to capitalize on that.

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They're going to exploit that for their own political purposes. And so I think Susie Wiles has actually been a really good influence on Donald Trump. I think that she has managed to kind of keep him on the straight and narrow. And as a result of that, there's been a lot more focus on what he wants to do policy wise as opposed to his rhetoric. So hopefully that continues.

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And I don't agree with everything he does. Obviously, I don't agree with all of his policies, but at least we're having a conversation about policy.

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Well, I'm curious what you guys thought. Oh, I was going to ask about Gillibrand. I actually think Gillibrand did a pretty fantastic job talking about, you know, the role of women in the military. I mean, look, I got to be honest. At this moment, when the military is having an incredibly difficult time recruiting, at a time when America is still struggling with obesity and

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Beggars can't be choosers. And if you have women who are fit enough, who are able to pass that fitness test in order to be in combat roles, I think it's fair to ask Pete Hegzith why he has an issue with women being included in said combat roles.

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Yeah. I mean, look, I think a lot of these hearings end up being performances. You know, it's really political theater. Good point. Right now for Democrats, it's nothing but political theater because all you need is a simple majority in the Senate to confirm these Trump nominees. And so they're using this as a moment to kind of. do their own political virtue signaling to their base.

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And so I understand that. And look, I mean, what you're saying is really subjective. Some women are super into it. Some people are really into seeing like a strong fighter, especially a woman in the Senate. Others are turned off by it. So I totally hear what you're saying. But I do think that Gillibrand has some pretty good questions. So we'll see what happens. And that's right.

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Yes. So it is true. It's a left wing show. And I still consider myself for the most part on the left. But, you know, there's been this growing culture among the Democratic Party in particular, where there seems to be a lack of self-reflection, maybe even, you know, kind of taking note or inventory of some of the policies that we've been championing or supporting, endorsing.

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Yeah, definitely. I mean, I'm sure if Trump was watching, he absolutely loved the way she handled the confirmation hearing yesterday. But I will say this. Look, I think she did a good job in terms of optics, for sure. I wish that the Senate confirmation hearings were less about the optics and politics and more about the records of these individuals.

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And so I would have preferred that she just said, Biden won the 2020 election. That way it would take the one and only question away from the Democrats. Well, she said Biden is the president. Yeah, exactly. And so that allowed for the Democrats to continue asking the same boring question over and over and over and over again. And I would have loved for them to delve into her record in Florida.

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Right. I want to learn more about her. I'm sure the American people want to learn more about her. But Honestly, at this point, the Democratic Party has one speed and one speed only. And I'm sure it was aggravating for her as well to be asked the exact same question over and over again.

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And to talk about optics briefly, I think that the way Adam Schiff behaved in that Senate confirmation hearing was the absolute worst. because he wasn't really interested in hearing her answers at all and seemed to be interrupting her before she could answer. It came across as bullying, and I don't think it's a good look at all. So Democrats aren't really thinking about the optics.

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They're not really delving into the records of these individuals, and I think that's a big problem.

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Once some of those policies are implemented, there might be flaws. There might be some issues that policymakers didn't see coming into it.

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Anna, what do you think? I agree. I agree. I think all of them will very likely be confirmed. Just my personal preferences. I have the biggest issue with Pete Hegseth, given the allegations against him. I'm pretty sure everyone in your audience disagrees with me, but it's not just the allegations. I'm concerned about the lack of experience for an incredibly important role.

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But once you see some of the negative ramifications of these policies, I mean, I used to be under the assumption, and this was, I guess, a terrible assumption to have because it's not true, that there would be a recalibration of some of these policies in order to actually serve the best interests of the American people.

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Secretary of Defense is not a small thing. And I'm worried that, you know, at a time when we're involved in conflicts abroad, that we're going to have someone at the helm who is not experienced for this position.

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But what I've noticed, certainly on a local level, is that there's absolutely no self-reflection, no recalibration of said policies. And on a national level, there seems to be more interest in serving the egos and the narcissism of Democratic leadership. And so the cover up involving Joe Biden's mental decline really bothered me.

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The fact that he was pushed out of, you know, running for reelection and then Kamala Harris was anointed really bothered me, especially when, you know, the whole centerpiece of the Democratic campaign was protecting democracy. Well, Democratic voters didn't get a say in who their Democratic nominee would be. So there are all sorts of issues.

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And it doesn't mean that I've completely changed my political identity. If anything, I'm holding true to my political identity. And I feel that that the Democrats do a lot of projection. They like to point fingers at the right for engaging in all sorts of nefarious behavior, but then they themselves engage in the same nefarious behavior.

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After Biden lost the election, you know, on Pod Save America, you hear, I'm sorry, after Harris lost the election, on Pod Save America, you have members of her campaign talking about what they've learned following the Democrats' loss. And what really bothered me is,

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One of the things that they believe they did wrong was they didn't break campaign finance laws enough by having the campaign coordinate with the super PACs. That's against the law. They accused Trump of doing that without providing any evidence. And then they said, we need to stop listening to our lawyers and we need to do a little more of what the Trump campaign did.

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I'm paraphrasing, but that was essentially the message that goes against my values and principles.

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I mean, honestly, I agree with the message that Biden was trying to put out there in this speech, which I also agree. I had a difficult time getting through it. It was kind of boring for me. So I got through maybe 25 percent, tried to watch it multiple times, could not get through it. But in regard to the message that he's trying to put out there in regard to

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corporate rule in America and money in politics in America, that is an accurate message. But you both make a great point about how money in politics has corrupted both political parties. And for the Democrats to pretend as though they're totally innocent of this is ridiculous to me, especially considering what we experienced in the last election cycle.

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I mean, Kamala Harris raised far more money than the Trump campaign did. And in fact, she raised far more dark money than than the Trump campaign did. And then she moved forward in essentially squandering all of that money.

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And I think this past election really shows the kind of grift that exists within our election cycles, because that money gets spent with all these consultants and all these various PR groups and the amount of money they charge for their services, which have proven to be a failure in this past election cycle for the Democrats. is absolutely outrageous.

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And so I feel like our elections have become more about, you know, a business for various industries that surround.