Ana Kasparian

And in regard to him being in the room,

I mean, look, I agree it's not a good look, especially when you're clapping after you did a lengthy segment condemning what the White House did in Venezuela.

But at the same time, I know that he probably wants to influence Trump in the right direction on foreign policy, and you're not going to be able to influence him unless you're in the room.

So, you know, I'm speculating about his intentions there, but I hear what you're saying about wanting to be cautious.

I also want to make space for people who change their minds, right?

And so if they come out and say, I was wrong, I'm sorry, I've changed my mind on this, whether it be on Muslim people or any other issue, I want to allow space for them to be forgiven and to prove that they're not just talking the talk, they're walking the walk.

I think that

I mean, I'm against giving Argentina a bailout.

I don't think that's racist.

Yeah.

You think he's motivated by racism for being against the bailout for Argentina?

Yeah, look, I think that

So you're talking about dispensationalism when you're referring to the evangelicals who have this relationship with Israel, not because they care about Jewish people, but because it's going to be the second coming of God and all of that stuff, whatever.

He's actually pretty vocal against that.

And I don't think he's helping to keep a coalition together.

In fact, I think he's being blamed probably accurately for

breaking MAGA up to some extent because he's been so critical of Trump and the foreign policy.

So look, we're going to, I guess, disagree in terms of like what Tucker actually believes.

I agree with you that Tucker was certainly like that when he was at Fox.

But since then,