Anand Giridharadas

So he understands that stuff because he's not from it.

And so you see him start, he's going to this gala, he's going to that gala, he's hosting this party, he's having these people over, and he starts to build this mystique.

And then he meets Les Wexner, who built the limited clothing company and other companies, and becomes, talks his way into kind of helping to manage money for him.

And over the course of time, manages more and more money for him.

There's a very kind of catch me if you can aspect to it.

And I think what the Times reporting showed so masterfully is that this was not someone who made a bunch of money in business who also did some shady things.

Like the scamming is how he made his money.

I think it's at this point the reporting bears out the notion that the fortune was inseparable from the scamming and the stealing.

This is not someone with like brilliant businesses.

I never think of simple ideas like that.

That's my problem.

You're trying to write books, man.

Do things the hard way.

Do things the hard way.

No, but you're right.

But I think what's so interesting here, think about something now we've had more time to metabolize as a society.

Think about Harvey Weinstein.

it's the same story in the end now today 2026 how many people knew maybe thousands knew enough and you think about this guy being able harvey weinstein to operate at the highest levels of the democratic party obviously hollywood finance everything

Right?

But what I'm saying is