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Anand Giridharadas

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724 total appearances

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We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

I started looking at them.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

I didn't really have an agenda.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

I thought maybe I would write something for my newsletter, the Inc.,

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

And I thought maybe, you know, maybe there would be something interesting about it.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

I start reading them.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

And I was watching the news at the time and watching how other people, I always, you know, how are other people telling the story?

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

What are they finding in it?

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

And what everybody was kind of focused on, the media was focused on, understandably, was a kind of hunt for a very specific smoking gun, which is like, is Donald Trump a child rapist?

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

And do these emails reveal that?

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

Now, I understand as much as anybody why that is an important question.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

In a reporting question, I understand based on Donald Trump's character that it's not a question that is, you know, spurious or pointless to look at.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

But as I started reading the emails, it seemed to me this is something those of us in the media often do.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

We often kind of fixate on like one narrative or one storyline and then everybody is like hurting and competing to answer that.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

And the more I read the emails, I was like, I don't think these emails are about that.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

it was missing a lot of what I was just reading in the emails.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

And so I decided, you know what, I'm going to read all of these emails, which I didn't even know how long it would take me.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

It ended up taking me five or six days.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

And I'm telling you, like, eight hours a day, like, reading Jeffrey Epstein's emails to and from.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

And I didn't know what I was going to do with it at first.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

I just started making notes and trying to find patterns as I do.