Anand Giridharadas

I think the human capacity to just, to not want to stake your neck out, to not be the person at the party, not be the skunk at the garden party, to wait for someone else to say something, I'm talking about just a more basic human thing, creates an immense vulnerability that people like this know.

So you're dealing with somebody- Which, just for the folks at home, is the lawyer who represents the American presidency.

She refers to herself as a girl, jokingly.

And he says, careful, don't call yourself a girl.

Don't use that word girl around me.

Otherwise, I might renew an old habit.

a lawyer representing the American presidency that George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln once occupied, to, and we think this is normal, but just like cashing in at big law firms, which is fine, to going to a convicted sex offender for sex crimes against a minor for advice, as she does, about whether she should accept

Obama's job offer to be attorney general.

So she's going to, do you think I should be attorney general?

And as you see there, the kind of way it glides from a joke about how he's a criminal pedophile to here is this kind of mad libs of the Davos

Like, when they invented the UN in the mid-1940s and had New York chosen as the location, and whenever that September gathering of the UN General Assembly came together, I don't think what they had in mind was creating opportunities for a disgraced pedophile financier to have all these different global people coming over for dinners or salons or whatever it is they were doing, and then offering to this lawyer

who he would give career advice to, the chance to meet whoever.

But this is... And then, of course, now she's at Goldman Sachs.

And I hope the PR department there will get in touch with you and let her come on the show.

She makes $20 million a year.

So, has a good life.

But I guess what I would say to people is, I think a lot of people listening to this live...

downstream of people like this.

All you may know on a day-to-day basis is that your pay doesn't feel like it's enough, or the adjustable rate mortgage you got feels like it's screwing you over, or your union doesn't have the leverage it used to have, or your kid's school keeps having these funding cuts and you're really scared for whether your kid is going to be able to make it

when this new economy or AI is going to, you're just, you're just like swimming in the muck.