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Anand Giridharadas

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724 total appearances

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We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

And I'm kind of a language person.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

I'm trying to understand what are the words people are using?

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

Like, what is happening here?

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

What is going on here?

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

Like an anthropologist of these emails.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

Because it is a culture, right?

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

And the first thing very rich people do when they have a little wealth and power is to make it impossible to see their private communications.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

They don't use Gmail the way you and I do.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

They got private servers.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

They got IT people coming to their house, rigging things up for them.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

So this kind of glimpse into not just how one monster in Jeffrey Epstein behaved, but how this entire social elite, Jeffrey Epstein, Lawrence Summers, former treasury secretary, Bill Gates, people from Harvard, people from MIT, people from the philanthropy world, people from the business world, Obama's White House counsel, this woman, Catherine Rumler, on and on and on.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

You don't normally get glimpses.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

into how these people operate.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

So I started reading.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

And I started with the question of how could all these eminent people from prestigious institutions lower themselves to consort with a guy like Jeffrey Epstein, convicted sex offender.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

And the more I read, I actually realized how misguided my question was.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

The idea that these high people had somehow lowered themselves to the standards of this man, when actually what the emails showed

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

if you connect with the dots of who these people are, how they have operated, how they've operated in our society over the last generation, these are people who obviously, of course, had no problem looking away at what Jeffrey Epstein did because looking away was their superpower.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

And they trained up to looking away from his pedophilia by looking away at all other manner of pains.

We Can Do Hard Things
WHY ARE BILLIONAIRES?!?: You’re Not Gonna Believe This B.S. with Amanda & Anand Giridharadas

They looked away at rising inequality, sometimes that they helped cause.