Anand Giridharadas
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to get Brad Karp into this club.
Well, I think...
The Augusta National Club is not a normal part of the establishment.
It's in the Deep South, and it is famously, you know, didn't allow black members, didn't allow Jewish members.
And so when you're dealing with like a club with kind of a white nationalist history, you go to Steve Bannon for a little help to get in.
You got to know who to go to for what.
And this is so striking, Ezra.
Steve Bannon describes the people who run the Augusta Club to Jeffrey Epstein as crackers.
He uses a racist term for white people.
The specific kind of demo of white people that Steve Bannon uses
used to get Donald Trump elected.
And so in this moment, Steve Bannon, who deplores the quote-unquote globalists and people of high finance and this and that, is talking to financier Jeffrey Epstein, referring to white people in Georgia as crackers.
None of these people in these networks are
mean what they say when you hear them in public.
They mean what they say when you're not looking.
And these emails in some are an extraordinary and rare chance to see what they really think about you, how they really move through the world, what their actual ends and projects are.
Maya Angelou is right when people show you who they are, believe them.
And it's different needs, right?
So the money people may not need money, although they always want more of it.
They often want to seem and feel smart, right?