Anand Giridharadas

And you want that person to feel your pain, as Bill Clinton said.

And some of what those earlier waves of progressive, particularly Bernie, but not only Bernie, were defined by an anger and were unable to do some of the other affects that I think people need as part of a balanced political diet.

So Zoran comes along.

And Zoran, like on paper, if you look at his analysis, if you look at his policies, if you look at his views, his past statements, he thinks the same thing Bernie thinks.

He was a real threat to these people.

He didn't read angry.

I spent a little time with him.

He doesn't seem angry.

He's angry about all the things you and I have been talking about.

But he doesn't read that way.

And he doesn't lead with that.

He is animated by the sense of what could be.

with an angry analysis kind of behind it.

And I think he became threatening to these powerful elites in New York City because it was a smiling, inviting, galvanizing cause that was pulling people in

who believed all kinds of things.

You know how many capitalists voted for Zoran Mamdani?

A lot.

You know how many people who don't need free buses voted for Zoran Mamdani?

Do you know how many people who don't need free childcare who voted for him?

Do you know how many people who, if you go to his website, probably disagree with two thirds of his policies, could not help but be in his movement?