Anand Giridharadas

And this is really worth understanding as a cultural figure that Epstein was.

He exploited certain gaps in our culture now.

He was not only grooming teenage girls.

He was grooming all of these people.

This was all grooming.

And it was a continuum of grooming from light, consensual grooming of bankers all the way to the most depraved and criminal grooming of teenage girls.

But the behaviors of pulling people in, understanding, even care and feeding.

Virginia Giuffre writes about how he did that to her in her incredible book, Nobody's Girl.

But he does it with

very powerful people who tell him when he's landing.

And he, unlike many people in American culture today, will say, have you had food?

I can get this made for you.

Do you like that kind of food?

What kind of food?

Are you sure?

What time do you get here?

Right?

A lot of people at that level are not worried about people on that kind of individual level.

And so there's this strange thing where he's running this giant criminal ring and he's exploiting and abusing people.

And he's also attending to human beings at the kind of micro level that I think a lot of those powerful people weirdly are not being attended to.