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Anand Giridharadas

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1243 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

JPMorgan flagged over a billion dollars in suspicious transactions.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

He is revealing how these elites make decisions about trust that I think are really different from the way folks at home go through the world and make decisions about this.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

I think you make decisions about, make character judgments about people, make judgments about kind of how honest they have been and therefore will be.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

These billionaires, these super elites, these super lawyers are,

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

are working on a whole different kind of system.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

And their system has to do, as you say, with how kind of loaded with connections you are in this network, how high your stock is on a given day in this network.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

And what Epstein figured out was how to game this.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

He figured out

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

the vulnerability of this entire network, which is that these people are actually not that serious about character.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

In fact, character may be a liability for some of them, maybe kind of an unnecessary source of friction.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

These people are actually not that grounded in the evidence of how someone has lived.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

These people are making very thin-slice judgments

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

about how central you are in the same networks they are.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

And therefore, something as simple, and this is true, something as simple as dining at Michael's restaurant here in Midtown can do extraordinary wonders for people in the super elite.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

Now, most people listening to this will not have heard of the restaurant Michael's in Midtown.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

But Michael's is an example of a restaurant, a perfectly nice restaurant,

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

But as an example of a place where if you can arrange to have lunch there, you will create an impression among certain people in publishing in New York, among certain people who are in network television in New York, in certain people in finance in New York, that you are in a certain place.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

And on your way in and out,

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

Someone might introduce you to this person, and I've seen this kind of organism flourish.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein’s Power

And then these people will just assume, like, you must be fine, right?