Anas Sarwar

And I just think there's too many people that want to use it as a way to weaponize for their own either warped ideology or a way to do politics, which is about division.

So I think it definitely feels like it's on the rise.

And I often question whether that's because we're online and because there's these voices and amplification that didn't exist before.

Is it because it's more prevalent now or it's easier to say now or it's more open now?

I never truly set upon one on that.

Maybe it was always underlying, but those people didn't have a voice.

Now they've got a platform, they've got a voice, or maybe it is on the rise now.

But I think one thing is certainly clear is there are people now who

who are willing to use it and weaponize it for political purposes.

So the concept of like fear and blame is there are lots of people that feel a deep frustration about what's happening in their lives legitimately.

And there's lots of people that think government doesn't work for them.

Things are broken.

This is as good as it gets.

Our country's going backwards.

Nothing works.

Nothing can ever work.

So we need to smash the system.

And then they have a layer on top of that of whether it's figures who are looking for attention or followers or to be voices online or whether it's even politicians are looking to get power.

who think, how do we weaponize those problems and find a group of people to point at and say, we wouldn't have these problems if it wasn't for them over there.

And that fear, blame, us versus them culture, I think is probably the single biggest political divide in the UK and probably globally now for this generation of politicians.