Anas Sarwar

And I actually feel a bit of a personal responsibility to how we fight back against that.

Because the answer to that is, do you do an us versus them politics and think we create a different version of us versus them?

Or do we create some kind of all of us to confront it?

And that I think is what we have to do.

How do we take on the genuine despair of,

The genuine mistrust that people have and give them solutions and pull our country together in the process and tell a story, a positive story in the process.

That, I think, is the single biggest challenge facing Scottish, UK and global politics right now.

One is Sadiq Khan is a proud Londoner.

Yes, a Liverpool football fan, but still a proud Londoner and someone that wants to deliver for every community in London rather than just be the voice for one community in London.

But there is an attempt to other him very, very often.

But I think he's done quite a good job of looking like and sounding like the voice of London.

And for me, there'll be lots of attempts to other me to claim I'm not Scottish enough or I'm not on the side of Scotland.

For me, I always think about just say what I believe, do what's right by Scotland and always argue what's right by Scotland and not worry about what comes our way if I am successful in this election.

And that is definitely our intention and our goal.

The one thing I'd push back on is I think it's too easy an analysis to say it's all Donald Trump's fault.

No, it's not all him, but he does drive a lot of this.

So I would agree that there is a driving of it from individuals, Donald Trump being one of them.

But there's an underlying sentiment, fear and failure that then is weaponized by politicians like Donald Trump.

in order to try and get the outcome they want.

How do we address that underlying and find a different way of challenging and telling a story that confronts that kind of politics?