Anastasia Nicolazzi

Many of you will not have any idea what this is all about. It was a group called Criss Cross. It's because the two guys are this young hip hop duo. I think they were like 12 and 13 years old when they had their first big hit, Jump Jump, which of course has been going through my head since I first heard them talking about this. And their signature was that they would wear their pants backwards.

Many of you will not have any idea what this is all about. It was a group called Criss Cross. It's because the two guys are this young hip hop duo. I think they were like 12 and 13 years old when they had their first big hit, Jump Jump, which of course has been going through my head since I first heard them talking about this. And their signature was that they would wear their pants backwards.

And again, they just did it one day for fun when they're trying to figure out how they could stand out. But it became a thing.

And again, they just did it one day for fun when they're trying to figure out how they could stand out. But it became a thing.

And Debra describes her son from the time he was very young as an old soul. He was this quiet kid who preferred the company of adults than often to his peers.

And Debra describes her son from the time he was very young as an old soul. He was this quiet kid who preferred the company of adults than often to his peers.

And I thought, what is he using these toothbrushes for? At first, I was like, OK, he's using them for something. He's cleaning something. He's building something. But it was just such this odd thing that he's always just asking his mom for a new toothbrush.

And I thought, what is he using these toothbrushes for? At first, I was like, OK, he's using them for something. He's cleaning something. He's building something. But it was just such this odd thing that he's always just asking his mom for a new toothbrush.

And this hobby was going to guide him into what he decided would be his future career. He wanted to be a mechanic. And so since he wanted that to be his career, he was working towards that. And that's why he decided to start Job Corps in Utah.

And this hobby was going to guide him into what he decided would be his future career. He wanted to be a mechanic. And so since he wanted that to be his career, he was working towards that. And that's why he decided to start Job Corps in Utah.

There was nothing about him that would seem to compromise him in any way.

There was nothing about him that would seem to compromise him in any way.

And Debra's reaction to them was visceral. No, not my son. And her reason was twofold. One, everything she knew about Anton, none of those things held true or possibilities for him. But that she was also worried that if this is what people were hypothesizing or talking about in the community, that that might also impact the detectives.

And Debra's reaction to them was visceral. No, not my son. And her reason was twofold. One, everything she knew about Anton, none of those things held true or possibilities for him. But that she was also worried that if this is what people were hypothesizing or talking about in the community, that that might also impact the detectives.

And if they thought these things about her son, would they maybe not work as hard?

And if they thought these things about her son, would they maybe not work as hard?

It is. It's a valid concern, right? Because while I have certainly dealt with my share of these types of cases, and when I say these types, I mean that were gang-related or drug-related or things like that, and I've seen detectives work as hard on those, for sure, as any other case. But I've also seen it go the other way too, right? I mean, that they, for some reason, the result isn't the same.

It is. It's a valid concern, right? Because while I have certainly dealt with my share of these types of cases, and when I say these types, I mean that were gang-related or drug-related or things like that, and I've seen detectives work as hard on those, for sure, as any other case. But I've also seen it go the other way too, right? I mean, that they, for some reason, the result isn't the same.

It isn't the case that they're going to choose to put on the top of the pile. And so for Deborah, she just wanted to make sure that there was nothing that was going to unfairly distract them or dissuade them for trying to figure this out.

It isn't the case that they're going to choose to put on the top of the pile. And so for Deborah, she just wanted to make sure that there was nothing that was going to unfairly distract them or dissuade them for trying to figure this out.