André Duqum

And I want to unpack all of those with you and actually see how many of them are interconnected in different aspects of this all.

But for people that are a bit new to this topic, how would you lay out the timeline sort of for the evidence of

non-human intelligence, extraterrestrial, UFO, UAP, and, yeah, kind of the uptick and why, you know, mid-century all this started to become more obvious.

Which tracked at what speed and time?

Because it was like moving at ridiculous.

what is it specifically about nuclear sites and particle accelerators that from the perspective of you know extraterrestrial life might be the timing in which they would want to come potentially intervene or observe or interfere with the stage of evolution that humanity finds itself entering

But it seems like reports of like a saucer looking thing going around shooting like laser beams.

So how do you, because you've done, whether it's like researching through Hastings' work and the various others, some of which you've mentioned, who have...

quite a swath of ufo sightings and abduction stories and a lot of what are internal subjective experiences that all we can really have for the most part is their their word trusting that what they're saying is sincere is genuine um it could very well still be because we know how the mind and the brain works emerging like understanding

We are capable of vast levels of self-deception and hallucination.

But nonetheless, you see pattern recognition over time from completely disparate parts on the planet.

And, you know, you can extrapolate things.

And so I'm just curious what you make of...

This like profound claims need profound amounts of evidence.

Do you feel like that level of evidence is there to justify those claims?

We'll get into that.

Just to let it breathe for a second, what do you think would happen if...

It became self-evident to mass consciousness that aliens are real.

What do you think that would do to the average human mind belief systems?

Hey guys, we'll get right back to the show.