Andrea Dunlop

When the perpetrator is someone that you love, impossible to overstate how terrible it feels to come to the realization that they could be harming their child.

To be the person who confronts it, who says something, who reports it, is so psychologically and emotionally difficult that many people are not willing to do it.

Many people will concoct any sort of conspiratorial world to avoid looking at what's in front of them.

And that's just humans.

Some people can be shown something like video evidence and they will still explain it away.

They're putting their own comfort above the safety of the children.

It is.

I will say we are expanding in our upcoming season to covering other cases of child abuse that are not medical child abuse, because I have found that there is actually so much crossover with how these are being treated and specifically with their intersection with the medical system.

And in the rise of misinformation about medical everything is really affecting both spheres.

But obviously, that is not a more cheerful topic in any way.

But

It's definitely emotionally heavy, but it is also...

very purposeful and intellectually very interesting.

And I have gotten to meet so many incredible people in this work that I would never have met otherwise, who have really dedicated their lives, mostly in a pretty quiet, unheralded way.

And even, unfortunately, increasingly in a way, if you're talking about child abuse pediatricians in particular,

They are actually being excoriated in the media for their role in protecting children, completely unfairly, but who've dedicated their lives to doing some of the hardest work imaginable that I think most people would not survive a day in, in order to protect children and in order to make children's lives better and safer.

And that is such a deeply gratifying thing to come into contact with in a time when I think...

It feels as though, not to hyperbolize here, but our country's lost its moral compass completely.

You know, I mean, I think like as we see all of these institutions that felt much more trustworthy, I think, Jordan, when we were growing up, to see people who really have a strong, purposeful ethic about what the right thing is to do, regardless of whether they get credit for it, regardless of whether they're punished for it.

But like people who really have a backbone and a strong moral compass.