Andrea Dunlop

Yeah.

I mean, no, this has all been so interesting.

I mean, I think the sort of last piece I wanted to ask you about is I just think in addition to sort of our understanding about how much people can fake online, which I think has evolved a lot,

I think our understanding of what attention gives us – because, you know, you were saying like the cases where people are just scamming or it's like, oh, they faked cancer so that they could raise $20,000.

Like that's not that interesting.

I think most people understand that like – and honestly, it's like it also crosses over with these things where it's like I think about –

you know, into getting like, if someone's just, if someone has a legitimate illness or has a kid that's ill and they're acting just kind of like weird online or performative online, I'm like, well, you know, unfortunately we live in hell and sometimes people have to go perform their pain so that they can raise money to pay for their, you know.

Oh, God.

It's like, I don't know.

It's like, yeah, where to sort of draw the lines.

And you're just like, well, yeah, like people are desperate because they can't get medical pills.

I don't know.

Like, well, I'm not going to criticize them for being a little weird.

But, you know, you also like, so we were sort of talking about, I think that where it becomes more interesting and sort of a bigger question mark is like when people are doing it in the absence of any material gain.

And that's obviously where, you know, enter Dr. Mark Feldman, right?

And I think like people's understanding of why someone would do something outrageous just for attention has really shifted because I think like pre-influencer,

You know, and yeah, OK, like I guess there's an idea, too, that you could become an influencer or a podcaster or whatever and, you know, and make a lot of money.

But I think most people understand that that's very, very unlikely.

Right.

I mean, like the percentage of people that are making their money and, you know, translating attention for money, you know, is small.