Andrea Dunlop

and their parents, because I think there's really a lot to sort of unpack here.

Yeah. And, you know, I think this really brought up, you know, some of these other cases that we've talked about on the show, like the Maya Kowalski case and the Justina Pelletier case, where, you know, when you're talking about munchausen by proxy abuse with very young children, they really are not old enough to be part of the dynamic in an active way.

Yeah. And, you know, I think this really brought up, you know, some of these other cases that we've talked about on the show, like the Maya Kowalski case and the Justina Pelletier case, where, you know, when you're talking about munchausen by proxy abuse with very young children, they really are not old enough to be part of the dynamic in an active way.

Yeah. And, you know, I think this really brought up, you know, some of these other cases that we've talked about on the show, like the Maya Kowalski case and the Justina Pelletier case, where, you know, when you're talking about munchausen by proxy abuse with very young children, they really are not old enough to be part of the dynamic in an active way.

And then it gets a lot more complicated when kids get a little bit older, I think, especially once they get to be 9, 10, and then on into their teenage years. And I want to be really precise about how we talk about this. And I know this is something we've talked about quite a bit on the committee of how to sort of frame this behavior because –

And then it gets a lot more complicated when kids get a little bit older, I think, especially once they get to be 9, 10, and then on into their teenage years. And I want to be really precise about how we talk about this. And I know this is something we've talked about quite a bit on the committee of how to sort of frame this behavior because –

And then it gets a lot more complicated when kids get a little bit older, I think, especially once they get to be 9, 10, and then on into their teenage years. And I want to be really precise about how we talk about this. And I know this is something we've talked about quite a bit on the committee of how to sort of frame this behavior because –

I think it does and has been in this case, you know, labeled as factitious disorder behavior. This is one of the diagnoses that the lawsuit says that HHSA, which is the Child Protective Services in California and Reedy Children's gave her, which was conversion disorder, factitious disorder behavior.

I think it does and has been in this case, you know, labeled as factitious disorder behavior. This is one of the diagnoses that the lawsuit says that HHSA, which is the Child Protective Services in California and Reedy Children's gave her, which was conversion disorder, factitious disorder behavior.

I think it does and has been in this case, you know, labeled as factitious disorder behavior. This is one of the diagnoses that the lawsuit says that HHSA, which is the Child Protective Services in California and Reedy Children's gave her, which was conversion disorder, factitious disorder behavior.

So somatic symptom disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, and anxiety disorder, and we can kind of unpack those a bit further, but just to sort of call out this factitious disorder, right? So factitious disorder imposed on self, that's when someone fabricates, exaggerates, or induces illness in themselves for the purposes of attention.

So somatic symptom disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, and anxiety disorder, and we can kind of unpack those a bit further, but just to sort of call out this factitious disorder, right? So factitious disorder imposed on self, that's when someone fabricates, exaggerates, or induces illness in themselves for the purposes of attention.

So somatic symptom disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, and anxiety disorder, and we can kind of unpack those a bit further, but just to sort of call out this factitious disorder, right? So factitious disorder imposed on self, that's when someone fabricates, exaggerates, or induces illness in themselves for the purposes of attention.

And I think that this diagnosis when applied to someone who we suspect is a victim is not quite right. I understand why it's used because it's naming the behavior.

And I think that this diagnosis when applied to someone who we suspect is a victim is not quite right. I understand why it's used because it's naming the behavior.

And I think that this diagnosis when applied to someone who we suspect is a victim is not quite right. I understand why it's used because it's naming the behavior.

The other thing that we know about a lot of perpetrators is that they began these, I mean, thinking back on my sister, thinking about a lot of the people where we've talked to their family members, a lot of times these behaviors do start as teenagers. And in a situation that's not an abuse situation, a parent is very concerned by those behaviors and doesn't co-sign that behavior, you know?

The other thing that we know about a lot of perpetrators is that they began these, I mean, thinking back on my sister, thinking about a lot of the people where we've talked to their family members, a lot of times these behaviors do start as teenagers. And in a situation that's not an abuse situation, a parent is very concerned by those behaviors and doesn't co-sign that behavior, you know?

The other thing that we know about a lot of perpetrators is that they began these, I mean, thinking back on my sister, thinking about a lot of the people where we've talked to their family members, a lot of times these behaviors do start as teenagers. And in a situation that's not an abuse situation, a parent is very concerned by those behaviors and doesn't co-sign that behavior, you know?

And in this case, the dynamics appear from what we know to be quite a lot more complicated. And I think in a case where you're suspecting that that parent is abusive, that is very different because if a child is participating in it, it's because they've been co-opted by the parent, not because they're necessarily intentionally