Andrea Dunlop

And in this case, the dynamics appear from what we know to be quite a lot more complicated. And I think in a case where you're suspecting that that parent is abusive, that is very different because if a child is participating in it, it's because they've been co-opted by the parent, not because they're necessarily intentionally

And in this case, the dynamics appear from what we know to be quite a lot more complicated. And I think in a case where you're suspecting that that parent is abusive, that is very different because if a child is participating in it, it's because they've been co-opted by the parent, not because they're necessarily intentionally

Doing it in the way that we would think of someone doing this just of their own accord. Can you kind of help us tease that out a little bit?

Doing it in the way that we would think of someone doing this just of their own accord. Can you kind of help us tease that out a little bit?

Doing it in the way that we would think of someone doing this just of their own accord. Can you kind of help us tease that out a little bit?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was very struck by some of these diagnoses because the family is saying that the diagnosis this child has, Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, POTS, and CRPS, all very real diagnoses that can be very complex and difficult to get to the frequent flyers in these cases, it has to be said. And we have heard actually from so many people.

I was very struck by some of these diagnoses because the family is saying that the diagnosis this child has, Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, POTS, and CRPS, all very real diagnoses that can be very complex and difficult to get to the frequent flyers in these cases, it has to be said. And we have heard actually from so many people.

I was very struck by some of these diagnoses because the family is saying that the diagnosis this child has, Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, POTS, and CRPS, all very real diagnoses that can be very complex and difficult to get to the frequent flyers in these cases, it has to be said. And we have heard actually from so many people.

We're going to follow up on this and hear some of these stories coming up, but I've heard from so many listeners that suffer from a couple of those conditions, but in particular, Ehlers-Danlos and Potts, who have had some real difficulties with doctors and also are very aware, and seemingly there are people in those communities that are very aware of

We're going to follow up on this and hear some of these stories coming up, but I've heard from so many listeners that suffer from a couple of those conditions, but in particular, Ehlers-Danlos and Potts, who have had some real difficulties with doctors and also are very aware, and seemingly there are people in those communities that are very aware of

We're going to follow up on this and hear some of these stories coming up, but I've heard from so many listeners that suffer from a couple of those conditions, but in particular, Ehlers-Danlos and Potts, who have had some real difficulties with doctors and also are very aware, and seemingly there are people in those communities that are very aware of

of the way that these diagnoses have been co-opted by people engaging in factitious disorder behaviors or in Munchausen by proxy behaviors, which is just such a mess and so horrible for the people that are suffering from those conditions genuinely.

of the way that these diagnoses have been co-opted by people engaging in factitious disorder behaviors or in Munchausen by proxy behaviors, which is just such a mess and so horrible for the people that are suffering from those conditions genuinely.

of the way that these diagnoses have been co-opted by people engaging in factitious disorder behaviors or in Munchausen by proxy behaviors, which is just such a mess and so horrible for the people that are suffering from those conditions genuinely.

And so it was very striking to me, though, that you have these sort of two sides saying that, okay, that's what the parents in this lawsuit are saying. And then on the other side, you have this conversion disorder, factitious disorder, somatic symptom disorder, and then these two mental health diagnoses of post-traumatic stress disorder and anxiety disorder. That certainly, yes, yes, please.

And so it was very striking to me, though, that you have these sort of two sides saying that, okay, that's what the parents in this lawsuit are saying. And then on the other side, you have this conversion disorder, factitious disorder, somatic symptom disorder, and then these two mental health diagnoses of post-traumatic stress disorder and anxiety disorder. That certainly, yes, yes, please.

And so it was very striking to me, though, that you have these sort of two sides saying that, okay, that's what the parents in this lawsuit are saying. And then on the other side, you have this conversion disorder, factitious disorder, somatic symptom disorder, and then these two mental health diagnoses of post-traumatic stress disorder and anxiety disorder. That certainly, yes, yes, please.