Andrea Dunlop

Will Dr. Jensen work?

He co-signs what caseworkers told us about the power imbalance and not being listened to.

Yeah, I mean, and I think I'm really struck by this, you know, by these episodes that, like, any person who'd been doing this work for this long, you would be able to go back and find...

you know, a defense attorney, a former caseworker, you know, like you're going to be able to find a couple of people that didn't like them or didn't.

I mean, it's like that to me is just not evidence of a bad doctor.

And I asked Sally Smith the same question and I wanted to put it to you because I don't want to get into, you know, I'm always trying to check for my

biases and my lens.

I come at this work from a certain angle, of course.

And, you know, we all, everyone, every journalist does.

Any journalist that pretends they're not is being disingenuous.

But like, I'm always trying to account for that.

And I don't want to sort of build this argument of like, child abuse pediatricians are perfect.

And there's nothing you could ever tell me about a child abuse pediatrician that would convince me that they're doing a bad job or that there are there are problems with their work.

So

help me understand, like, how should we be better consumers, being better consumers of this media?

Like, how should we evaluate whether or not there is a problem with not just child abuse pediatricians, but any doctor who's in, because most places don't have them.

Most places are not lucky enough to have someone that knowledgeable on staff.

How should we be evaluating this role and whether or not a doctor is doing it well?

Yeah.

And that's I think that's one of my that's one of the other real fears I have about this kind of reporting is that it makes parents afraid to bring their children to the hospital completely unnecessarily, in my opinion.