Andrea Dunlop

So what frequently happens when CPS is investigating these cases is they put it under medical neglect, which is not the same thing at all.

And then someone who doesn't have any idea what this abuse is looks at it and goes, you're not medically neglecting this child.

They're taking them to the doctor all the time.

We don't have a lot of sort of official recognition of this abuse on any level.

Yeah.

So the situation you're talking about is with our last season's case.

And that was Sabrina, who is the younger sister of the perpetrator, which is obviously that's a role I'm familiar with.

And I can tell you that when the perpetrator is someone that you love, impossible to overstate how terrible it feels to come to the realization that they are.

could be harming their child.

And to be the person who confronts it, who says something, who reports it, is so psychologically and emotionally difficult that many people are not willing to do it.

Many people will concoct, unfortunately this has been the case with my brother-in-law and his family, I think they will concoct any sort of conspiratorial

world to avoid looking at what's in front of them and that's just humans that's just whether or not someone has the emotional courage and whether they've been given the information I mean I will say you know even with Sabrina in that case once she was shown the video of her sister doing it she

recognize what was happening.

And some people don't.

Some people can be shown something like video evidence and they will still explain it away.

And they're putting their own comfort above the safety of the children.

And I think like it is hard because you're talking about a mom who's saying that she has a sick child.

They're exploiting probably the most sympathetic figure anyone could think of, because who is more sympathetic than a sick child and a parent of a sick child?

If you just think about that, that's something that we're all very conditioned to respond to.

And that's what they're exploiting.