Andrea Dunlop

It's a very much either you're with me or you're against me.

And that's it.

You're not seeing your grandchild ever again.

Yeah, no, you're quite right.

And it is very distinct from parents who are having delusions and who are having something like postpartum psychosis, which is very serious and obviously requires an intervention.

But that's something where you're right, exactly as you said, if a parent has the proper support, they absolutely can be a safe parent.

And this is why I and many other experts have really leaned away from the idea of describing this as a psychological condition.

There is a psychiatric diagnosis that is associated with it, factitious disorder imposed on another.

It is in the DSM.

I really have come to believe that the utility of that psychiatric diagnosis is worse than zero because I think it often creates confusion about this being a mental illness that someone can be treated for.

There is a treatment model.

It has been effective in very rare cases

Thank you so much.

In Lisa's case, where she was caught on video doing this, right, you think, how could anyone explain that behavior?

She did.

And she said, oh, I was so worried.

And this is a pretty common framework that perpetrators give when they're backed into a corner.

I was so worried that my child was actually sick.

But the doctors weren't doing enough that I poisoned them so that they would have these extreme symptoms.

I mean, you can't really make it make rational sense.