Andrea Dunlop

Yeah.

And I think it seemed very clear to me why it would be important for you after all of that, after the act and all of that kind of thing, to tell your story in your own words and really rest some control over the narrative.

I wanted to just kind of pivot back and ask a couple of questions about your mom and maybe some of the misperceptions that I think will really probably resonate with a lot of fellow survivors.

So you've said in interviews that it's important to you that people don't see or characterize your mother as a monster.

And that's something that really resonates with me.

So how should we see people like your mom?

What's a better framing?

I mean, it's extremely complex.

And, you know, what you're expressing, those are feelings I've gone through about my own sister.

I asked that question of Dr. Mark Feldman when I first met him.

Does she know?

Do people who do this understand what they're doing?

Because I think it's a much more comforting idea to think,

Oh, no, they really believe their kid's sick or they're, you know, they're confused or they're having this sort of mental health issue that makes them sort of not culpable for their behavior, right?

Because it's really horrible to think about someone doing this in a calculated, premeditated way.

But that is the reality.

And I think it's like we can still face that reality and preserve the humanity of everyone involved.

And I think that's important because I think when we make monsters out of perpetrators of crimes, we're holding it at a distance, right?

Like as watchers, we're saying, well, that would never happen to anyone I know.

That would never happen in my family.