Andrea Dunlop

fame slash infamy, whichever way you would characterize it.

Um, and now do you feel like you're in kind of a new chapter or has that sort of attention on you persisted?

I am wondering like sort of how, how that is now.

That must just be incredibly intense.

And I think, you know, I think a lot about sort of what your relationship with social media must be like because, you know, you can you remind me how and I know this is sort of part of your story, but how old are you chronologically speaking?

I'm 34.

Okay, you're 34.

Yeah.

So, you know, these technologies were around when you were younger.

I'm 43.

So like, I really was like the last age of person to like grow up without social media.

And like, I didn't have a cell phone until after college.

But you know, so obviously, some of those technologies were around when you were growing up, but obviously, you're growing up in very specific set of circumstances.

And then, you know, I assume those things were not available to you, you know, the way they are on the outside when you were in prison.

And what kind of, when you were in prison, what kind of sort of technologies and communications were available to you while you were in prison?

So you didn't have kind of unfettered access to social media accounts and that kind of thing.

So, you know, then you come out of prison and then you immediately develop this just massive social media following, you know, millions and millions of people following.

And, you know, that would be jarring, I think, for someone in any set of circumstances, frankly.

You know, I think the experience of going viral, I think, can be downright traumatic under the best of circumstances.

And this was obviously not the best of circumstances.