Andrea Dunlop

We're going to follow up on this and hear some of these stories coming up, but I've heard from so many listeners that suffer from a couple of those conditions, but in particular, Ehlers-Danlos and Potts, who have had some real difficulties with doctors and also are very aware, and seemingly there are people in those communities that are very aware of

of the way that these diagnoses have been co-opted by people engaging in factitious disorder behaviors or in Munchausen by proxy behaviors, which is just such a mess and so horrible for the people that are suffering from those conditions genuinely.

of the way that these diagnoses have been co-opted by people engaging in factitious disorder behaviors or in Munchausen by proxy behaviors, which is just such a mess and so horrible for the people that are suffering from those conditions genuinely.

of the way that these diagnoses have been co-opted by people engaging in factitious disorder behaviors or in Munchausen by proxy behaviors, which is just such a mess and so horrible for the people that are suffering from those conditions genuinely.

And so it was very striking to me, though, that you have these sort of two sides saying that, okay, that's what the parents in this lawsuit are saying. And then on the other side, you have this conversion disorder, factitious disorder, somatic symptom disorder, and then these two mental health diagnoses of post-traumatic stress disorder and anxiety disorder. That certainly, yes, yes, please.

And so it was very striking to me, though, that you have these sort of two sides saying that, okay, that's what the parents in this lawsuit are saying. And then on the other side, you have this conversion disorder, factitious disorder, somatic symptom disorder, and then these two mental health diagnoses of post-traumatic stress disorder and anxiety disorder. That certainly, yes, yes, please.

And so it was very striking to me, though, that you have these sort of two sides saying that, okay, that's what the parents in this lawsuit are saying. And then on the other side, you have this conversion disorder, factitious disorder, somatic symptom disorder, and then these two mental health diagnoses of post-traumatic stress disorder and anxiety disorder. That certainly, yes, yes, please.

Yes, thank you for saying that. The perennial reminder that we always put that the presence of a genuine diagnosis does not mean the absence of abuse. Exaggeration, fabrication, those things can all come up. Interestingly, as opposed to the Maya Kowalski case, where once we had really done all of the research, that diagnosis of CRPS appeared to be very much fabricated, right?

Yes, thank you for saying that. The perennial reminder that we always put that the presence of a genuine diagnosis does not mean the absence of abuse. Exaggeration, fabrication, those things can all come up. Interestingly, as opposed to the Maya Kowalski case, where once we had really done all of the research, that diagnosis of CRPS appeared to be very much fabricated, right?

Yes, thank you for saying that. The perennial reminder that we always put that the presence of a genuine diagnosis does not mean the absence of abuse. Exaggeration, fabrication, those things can all come up. Interestingly, as opposed to the Maya Kowalski case, where once we had really done all of the research, that diagnosis of CRPS appeared to be very much fabricated, right?

She had gone to three world-class hospitals that had not given her that diagnosis. So that very much appeared to be a fabrication. In this case, I'm not so sure because this was actually diagnosed by a proper hospital and it does appear to fit the diagnosis of CRPS, right? Stemming from an initial injury, et cetera.

She had gone to three world-class hospitals that had not given her that diagnosis. So that very much appeared to be a fabrication. In this case, I'm not so sure because this was actually diagnosed by a proper hospital and it does appear to fit the diagnosis of CRPS, right? Stemming from an initial injury, et cetera.

She had gone to three world-class hospitals that had not given her that diagnosis. So that very much appeared to be a fabrication. In this case, I'm not so sure because this was actually diagnosed by a proper hospital and it does appear to fit the diagnosis of CRPS, right? Stemming from an initial injury, et cetera.

So, and it's not really as much the focus of this, more about the Ehlers-Danlos and POTS. But yeah, that's just to say that like things happen to children all the time. People have medical stuff. It does not negate abuse. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm very glad you pointed that out.

So, and it's not really as much the focus of this, more about the Ehlers-Danlos and POTS. But yeah, that's just to say that like things happen to children all the time. People have medical stuff. It does not negate abuse. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm very glad you pointed that out.

So, and it's not really as much the focus of this, more about the Ehlers-Danlos and POTS. But yeah, that's just to say that like things happen to children all the time. People have medical stuff. It does not negate abuse. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm very glad you pointed that out.

Um, but so this list of diagnoses that we get sort of from the other side of what the hospital and HHSA is saying, I mean, this really, this looks very recognizable to me. Right. And I think that, um, this conversion disorder, do you happen to know the difference between conversion disorder and somatic symptom disorder?

Um, but so this list of diagnoses that we get sort of from the other side of what the hospital and HHSA is saying, I mean, this really, this looks very recognizable to me. Right. And I think that, um, this conversion disorder, do you happen to know the difference between conversion disorder and somatic symptom disorder?

Um, but so this list of diagnoses that we get sort of from the other side of what the hospital and HHSA is saying, I mean, this really, this looks very recognizable to me. Right. And I think that, um, this conversion disorder, do you happen to know the difference between conversion disorder and somatic symptom disorder?

Cause I, I actually realized I don't, those, those feel pretty interchangeable to me, but, um, yeah, I, I think they have been used pretty interchangeably, you know, um,