Andrea Gibson

to talk to me.

But I think, Abby, one of the things that I want to add because of that fear of death, you know, I used to

I used to see the word oncology, I mean, even in my 20s, and I would start to have a panic attack if I saw that word.

And one of the things that I think I'll say is that there doesn't seem to be, at first I thought I was having a very unique experience.

And what I've learned is it's not very unique.

I was in a cancer group with people and there was this woman in there who was saying that whenever people ask her if she's out of the woods,

She says that she'll never be out of the woods, that there's something beautiful about the woods, that when she finds herself getting further away and further into remission.

She almost finds herself putting saplings in her path because there is something that happens.

Okay.

So I don't know if y'all have ever, have you taken psychedelics?

I'll just tell you.

Yeah.

So if you think about it like that, I've experienced this experience like that, where you're thinking about death from the perspective of somebody who's not confronting it directly right now.

And there is something that comes along with the actual confronting that holds you in a way that you can't imagine being held right now that I couldn't have imagined until I was there.

And I think that's something that is important to share that like this, what I'm experiencing is, is not in any way unique.

The joy that I found in these years isn't unique and not that other people aren't going through other things.

Like for some people, it's so rad that they spend the whole time just screaming and raging because maybe they haven't

express their anger their whole lives.

And now they're doing that.

There's not one right way to do it.