Andrej Karpathy

Well, but some of the things that people do is invent new things, which I would just put into the automation, if that makes sense.

I mean, it is fundamentally automation, but I mean, it will be like extremely foreign.

I do think it will look really strange because like you mentioned, we can run all of this on a computer cluster, et cetera, and much faster and all this thing.

Yeah.

I mean, maybe some of the scenarios, for example, that I start to get, like, nervous about with respect to when the world looks like that is this kind of, like, gradual loss of control and understanding of what's happening.

And I think that's actually the most likely outcome, probably, is that there will be a gradual loss of understanding of... And we'll gradually layer all this stuff everywhere, and there'll be fewer and fewer people who understand it, and that there will be a sort of this, like, scenario of a gradual loss of control and understanding of what's happening.

That, to me, seems most likely outcome of how all of this stuff will go down.

Yeah, I think that's fair.

That's a good pushback.

I think, like, I guess I expect loss of both power.

So we're really far into a territory of... I don't know what this looks like, but if I was to write sci-fi novels, they would look along the lines of not even a single entity or something like that, that just sort of takes over everything, but actually multiple competing entities that gradually become more and more autonomous, and some of them go rogue, and the others fight them off, and all this kind of stuff.

And it's like this hot pot of...

completely autonomous activity that we've delegated to.

I kind of feel like it would have that flavor.

I mean, I basically expect there to be, I mean, a lot of these things, I mean, they will be tools to people and the people could, some of the population is like, they're acting on behalf of people or something like that.

So maybe those people are in control, but maybe it's a loss of control overall for society in the sense of like outcomes we want or something like that, where you have entities acting on behalf of individuals that are still kind of roughly seen as out of control.

I guess what I mean is...

I do, but it's business as usual because we're in an intelligence explosion already and have been for decades.

And when you look at GDP, it's basically the GDP curve that is an exponential weighted sum over so many aspects of the industry.

Everything is gradually being automated, has been for hundreds of years.