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Andrej Karpathy

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

I do think that self-driving is very interesting because it's definitely like where I get a lot of my intuitions because I spent five years on it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And it has this entire history where actually the first demos of self-driving go all the way to the 1980s.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

You can see a demo from CMU in 1986.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

There's a truck that's driving itself on roads.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

But OK, fast forward.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

I think when I was joining Tesla, I had a very early demo of Waymo.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And it basically gave me a perfect drive in 2014 or something like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

So perfect Waymo drive a decade ago.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

It took us around Palo Alto and so on because I had a friend who worked there.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And I thought it was like very close and then still took a long time.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And I do think that for some kinds of tasks and jobs and so on, there's a very large demo to product gap where the demo is very easy, but the product is very hard.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And it's especially the case in cases like self-driving where the cost of failure is too high, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

Many industries, tasks, and jobs maybe don't have that property, but when you do have that property, that definitely increases the timelines.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

I do think that, for example, in software engineering, I do actually think that that property does exist.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

I think for a lot of vibe coding, it doesn't.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

But I think if you're writing actual production grade code, I think that property should exist because any mistake actually leads to security vulnerability or something like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

Millions and hundreds of millions of people's personal social security numbers, etc, get leaked or something like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

I do think that it is a case that in software, people should be careful.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

Kind of like in self-driving.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

Like in self-driving, if things go wrong, you might get injury.