Andrej Karpathy

there's more human in the loop that you might expect.

And there's people somewhere out there basically beaming in from the sky.

And I don't actually know that they're fully in the loop with the driving.

I think some of the times they are, but they're certainly involved and there are people.

And in some sense, we haven't actually removed the person.

We've like moved them to somewhere where you can't see them.

I still think there will be some work, as you mentioned, going from environment to environment.

And so I think like there's still challenges to make self-driving real.

But I do agree that it's definitely across the threshold where it kind of feels real, unless it's like really teleoperated.

For example, Waymo can't go to all the different parts of the city.

My suspicion is it's like parts of city where you don't get a good signal.

Anyway, so basically, I don't actually know anything about the stack.

I mean, I'm just making up stuff.

Sorry, I don't know anything about the specifics of Waymo.

I feel like I talk about them.

I actually, by the way, love Waymo, and I take it all the time.

So I don't want to say, like, I just think people, again, are sometimes a little bit too naive about some of the progress, and I still think there's a huge amount of work.

And I think Tesla took, in my mind, a lot more scalable approach.

Yeah.

And I think the team is doing extremely well and is going to and I I'm kind of like on the record for predicting how this thing will go, which is like when we had like early start because you can package up so many sensors.